Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
Character Builds & Optimization
Psionic vs Arcane: Build me some characters.
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Psion" data-source="post: 1757650" data-attributes="member: 172"><p>As stated, I have a lot of NPCs to make for my game. If I am going to sit down and stat out my characters, that's where my major interest lies. I already feel that Sorren satisfactorily showed that sorcerers are, within their limitations, not too bad off (but still, I think the sorcerer is a weak class.)</p><p></p><p>I don't feel I could serve my position well making a sorcerer anyways, since 1) Thanee's example uses a power I feel needs errata'd and 2) I beleive a sorcerer is weak to begin with. So I would expect such a match-up to show the sorcerer wanting. That being the case, why waste my time with the match up when by those points, I beleive that the outcome of the match-up is what you beleive it will be. </p><p></p><p>Perhaps you could querry one of the folks who weighed in to say that they don't agree with the premise of the "how to buff up the sorcerer" thread? They might actually have some reason to beleive a sorcerer is competitive that they might take into account that I don't. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Now a wizard, I could probably make a credible attempt at. (Though he still wouldn't match the DCs of an un-errata'd energy missile). That said, you have sort of stacked the deck against me if you expect a wizard not to use scrolls. That's one of their bennies.</p><p></p><p>However, I don't feel a wizard's strengths are best demonstrated by design contest to deal with a known set of obstacles. The wizard's broad availability of spells coupled with their ability to leave a slot open means that their abilities are best highlighted in blind tests. Of course, that makes the whole deal more random as well.</p><p></p><p>I think I brought this point up in another thread, but it is my considered opinion that balance is very situation-sensitive, and the ultimate measure of balance is whether the GM (and fellow players) find it difficult to accomodate the character in question, and/or whether characters of the different classes are left with competancies that make them feel they have an important contribution to the game. I feel, from actual experience, that a psion is not difficult to accomodate, though I would feel hard pressed to come up with a representative test to demonstrate this short of... running a few games.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Psion, post: 1757650, member: 172"] As stated, I have a lot of NPCs to make for my game. If I am going to sit down and stat out my characters, that's where my major interest lies. I already feel that Sorren satisfactorily showed that sorcerers are, within their limitations, not too bad off (but still, I think the sorcerer is a weak class.) I don't feel I could serve my position well making a sorcerer anyways, since 1) Thanee's example uses a power I feel needs errata'd and 2) I beleive a sorcerer is weak to begin with. So I would expect such a match-up to show the sorcerer wanting. That being the case, why waste my time with the match up when by those points, I beleive that the outcome of the match-up is what you beleive it will be. Perhaps you could querry one of the folks who weighed in to say that they don't agree with the premise of the "how to buff up the sorcerer" thread? They might actually have some reason to beleive a sorcerer is competitive that they might take into account that I don't. ;) Now a wizard, I could probably make a credible attempt at. (Though he still wouldn't match the DCs of an un-errata'd energy missile). That said, you have sort of stacked the deck against me if you expect a wizard not to use scrolls. That's one of their bennies. However, I don't feel a wizard's strengths are best demonstrated by design contest to deal with a known set of obstacles. The wizard's broad availability of spells coupled with their ability to leave a slot open means that their abilities are best highlighted in blind tests. Of course, that makes the whole deal more random as well. I think I brought this point up in another thread, but it is my considered opinion that balance is very situation-sensitive, and the ultimate measure of balance is whether the GM (and fellow players) find it difficult to accomodate the character in question, and/or whether characters of the different classes are left with competancies that make them feel they have an important contribution to the game. I feel, from actual experience, that a psion is not difficult to accomodate, though I would feel hard pressed to come up with a representative test to demonstrate this short of... running a few games. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
Character Builds & Optimization
Psionic vs Arcane: Build me some characters.
Top