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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 2156412" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>Although this might happen in a specific campaign setting, the typical underground setting has Illithids fighting Drow, Duergars, and other threats on a fairly regular basis and they should have counters to both magic and psionics.</p><p></p><p>The favored class of Illithids is Wizard after all.</p><p></p><p>Monsters shouldn't live in a vacumn with regard to each other and only prepare anti-PC and/or anti-their own monster type tactics.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But, that was the entire point of this particular line of discussion that you brought up: What would happen in a psionics not equal to magic campaign? The uncommon would prepare for the common, but not vice versa.</p><p></p><p>And, I don't see it as a problem really. In a psionics is not equal to magic campaign, things are just slightly different. Sure, Dispel Psionics will not come up in play a lot, but the very first group of Shapers with Astral Constructs that the DM throws at the group might just get the PC Psion thinking about taking Dispel Psionics after all. One power out of dozens to ensure that he can counter anything psionic thrown at him is typically worth it, even in a psionics not equal to magic campaign.</p><p></p><p>If the Psion decides to only prepare for magic type threats, the few times that psionics comes up in the game, none of the PCs (even the Psion who is supposed to be the group psionic expert) will be prepared.</p><p></p><p>And I don't know about your games, but in ours, the campaign focus shifts from player to player over time. Every PC comes into the spotlight at some point in time. So if there is a PC psion, the focus will shift a while to psionic enemies (and hopefully, specific enemies of that given PC). Then, it will shift to enemies of the PC Cleric's Deity for a while, etc.</p><p></p><p>So although rare overall, psionics would still not be totally uncommon for the PCs and even the PC Arcane caster might just come up with some anti-psi tactics.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 2156412, member: 2011"] Although this might happen in a specific campaign setting, the typical underground setting has Illithids fighting Drow, Duergars, and other threats on a fairly regular basis and they should have counters to both magic and psionics. The favored class of Illithids is Wizard after all. Monsters shouldn't live in a vacumn with regard to each other and only prepare anti-PC and/or anti-their own monster type tactics. But, that was the entire point of this particular line of discussion that you brought up: What would happen in a psionics not equal to magic campaign? The uncommon would prepare for the common, but not vice versa. And, I don't see it as a problem really. In a psionics is not equal to magic campaign, things are just slightly different. Sure, Dispel Psionics will not come up in play a lot, but the very first group of Shapers with Astral Constructs that the DM throws at the group might just get the PC Psion thinking about taking Dispel Psionics after all. One power out of dozens to ensure that he can counter anything psionic thrown at him is typically worth it, even in a psionics not equal to magic campaign. If the Psion decides to only prepare for magic type threats, the few times that psionics comes up in the game, none of the PCs (even the Psion who is supposed to be the group psionic expert) will be prepared. And I don't know about your games, but in ours, the campaign focus shifts from player to player over time. Every PC comes into the spotlight at some point in time. So if there is a PC psion, the focus will shift a while to psionic enemies (and hopefully, specific enemies of that given PC). Then, it will shift to enemies of the PC Cleric's Deity for a while, etc. So although rare overall, psionics would still not be totally uncommon for the PCs and even the PC Arcane caster might just come up with some anti-psi tactics. [/QUOTE]
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