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<blockquote data-quote="azmodean" data-source="post: 2186492" data-attributes="member: 26590"><p>A few rules notes.</p><p>First concerning summoned creatures vs astral constructs. Summoned creatures, wether outsiders or magical beasts, are by definition extraplanar, and therefore subject to the effects of protection from X, magic circle, banishment, etc...</p><p>The protection from X spell is particularly important as one of the effects (immunity to mind control) is highly desireable, therefore making the spell much more commonly available. Dispel magic, dispel psionics, and dismiss ectoplasm (all lvl 3 spells as opposed to 1st lvl protection from X)</p><p></p><p>A sorceror firing a barrage of magic missiles was mentioned, along with the comment that there is no defense against it except SR. There are two other defenses, brooches of shielding and force effects. A brooch of shielding in particular seems like it would be an incredibly common item for mid- to high- level characters.</p><p></p><p>The issue of not having psionic items was brought up, this is in no way a rules issue, if your psion is not getting any dorjes or power crystals or psicrowns, then it is an issue with the campaign and/or the DM, take it up with them instead of trying to use it as a point in a rules-oriented discussion. There are many games where the arcane spellcasters don't have ready access to wands/staffs/scrolls either, the solution is to get crafting feats.</p><p></p><p>Concerning psions not having access to flight: Half of the psion types get access to flight of some kind as a 3rd lvl power(I admit it's a bit iffy for a shaper to be carried by a medium 3rd lvl construct, who can only carry 153 lbs aloft, but it's definitely possible with a 4th lvl construct), and the rest get access to overland flight as a 5th level power. Compared to priests who get wind walk at 4th lvl, wizards/sorcerors who get fly at 3rd lvl, and the rest of the classes who never get flight.</p><p></p><p>Finally there is my non rules-oriented take on the entire subject. Psions are meant to do different things than the other character classes, so of course they go about it in a different way.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="azmodean, post: 2186492, member: 26590"] A few rules notes. First concerning summoned creatures vs astral constructs. Summoned creatures, wether outsiders or magical beasts, are by definition extraplanar, and therefore subject to the effects of protection from X, magic circle, banishment, etc... The protection from X spell is particularly important as one of the effects (immunity to mind control) is highly desireable, therefore making the spell much more commonly available. Dispel magic, dispel psionics, and dismiss ectoplasm (all lvl 3 spells as opposed to 1st lvl protection from X) A sorceror firing a barrage of magic missiles was mentioned, along with the comment that there is no defense against it except SR. There are two other defenses, brooches of shielding and force effects. A brooch of shielding in particular seems like it would be an incredibly common item for mid- to high- level characters. The issue of not having psionic items was brought up, this is in no way a rules issue, if your psion is not getting any dorjes or power crystals or psicrowns, then it is an issue with the campaign and/or the DM, take it up with them instead of trying to use it as a point in a rules-oriented discussion. There are many games where the arcane spellcasters don't have ready access to wands/staffs/scrolls either, the solution is to get crafting feats. Concerning psions not having access to flight: Half of the psion types get access to flight of some kind as a 3rd lvl power(I admit it's a bit iffy for a shaper to be carried by a medium 3rd lvl construct, who can only carry 153 lbs aloft, but it's definitely possible with a 4th lvl construct), and the rest get access to overland flight as a 5th level power. Compared to priests who get wind walk at 4th lvl, wizards/sorcerors who get fly at 3rd lvl, and the rest of the classes who never get flight. Finally there is my non rules-oriented take on the entire subject. Psions are meant to do different things than the other character classes, so of course they go about it in a different way. [/QUOTE]
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