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<blockquote data-quote="Nail" data-source="post: 2189679" data-attributes="member: 224"><p>Me, not objective? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Nonsense! (Note the smiley-- no need to get your hackles up, anyone!)</p><p></p><p>As an aside: I'm glad to have these sorts of debates about psionics. IME, Psionics has been out of balance......I'm keenly interested in how in the world someone could possibly think otherwise.</p><p></p><p>True. And I can count with zero fingers the number of monsters that have this power.</p><p></p><p>I see in order to balance this (along with Astral Construct, Ectoplasmic coccoon, etc) I need to equip a substantial number of my bad guys with Dismiss Ectoplasm ability. Consider it done. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>And there are exactly zero spells without components. </p><p></p><p>Arcane Casters need to spend metamagic feats to get rid of components. The most likely metamagic feat the arcane caster might have that qualifies is Quicken Spell, followed (distant second) by Silent Spell. No one takes Still Spell, and few take Eschew Materials.....so really, quicken Spell is the only serious option. (Sudden metamagics are once per day, so are not really comparable.)</p><p></p><p>How many quickened high level spells are on that PCs sheet? And how many of those are attack spells? (BTW, if you have any suggestions, my BBEG would love to hear it!)</p><p></p><p>In any event, casters that prepare spells would have to do just that: prepare these metamagic spells, in higher level slots. Psions don't have to (and certainly don't have to worry about the higher level slot thing). A sorserer could pull it off tho', with full round actions.</p><p></p><p>Allow me to apologize, but the other points you've listed don't seem particularly compelling (fly speed, need a feat to get Ectoplasmic form, chance of power failure). Still, thanks for the list and effort.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nail, post: 2189679, member: 224"] Me, not objective? :) Nonsense! (Note the smiley-- no need to get your hackles up, anyone!) As an aside: I'm glad to have these sorts of debates about psionics. IME, Psionics has been out of balance......I'm keenly interested in how in the world someone could possibly think otherwise. True. And I can count with zero fingers the number of monsters that have this power. I see in order to balance this (along with Astral Construct, Ectoplasmic coccoon, etc) I need to equip a substantial number of my bad guys with Dismiss Ectoplasm ability. Consider it done. :D And there are exactly zero spells without components. Arcane Casters need to spend metamagic feats to get rid of components. The most likely metamagic feat the arcane caster might have that qualifies is Quicken Spell, followed (distant second) by Silent Spell. No one takes Still Spell, and few take Eschew Materials.....so really, quicken Spell is the only serious option. (Sudden metamagics are once per day, so are not really comparable.) How many quickened high level spells are on that PCs sheet? And how many of those are attack spells? (BTW, if you have any suggestions, my BBEG would love to hear it!) In any event, casters that prepare spells would have to do just that: prepare these metamagic spells, in higher level slots. Psions don't have to (and certainly don't have to worry about the higher level slot thing). A sorserer could pull it off tho', with full round actions. Allow me to apologize, but the other points you've listed don't seem particularly compelling (fly speed, need a feat to get Ectoplasmic form, chance of power failure). Still, thanks for the list and effort. [/QUOTE]
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