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<blockquote data-quote="Zander" data-source="post: 2264174" data-attributes="member: 1364">I'm afraid that as a matter of formal logic, it is. If A, B and C are sub-sets of X, an element in X is not definitionally in A. The element could be in B or C without being in A.&nbsp;As my bicycle argument shows, imagery has quite a bit to do with the fantasy genre.&nbsp;Please explain how &quot;classic fantasy&quot; is &quot;left field&quot;.&nbsp;You continue to assert that fantasy and fiction are synonymous despite earlier acknowledging that they aren't. Just because something is fictional doesn't mean it must logically be part of the fantasy genre.&nbsp;As you already know, I've referred to Realms of Fantasy. I didn't contribute to the debate in that magazine. The definitions aren't mine.Tolkien was opposed to the introduction of (pseudo-)science/technology in fantasy, and both Hickman &amp; Weis and Poul Anderson have played on the difference between fantasy and sci-fi. While there are authors who disagree with me, I'm in pretty good company.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Zander, post: 2264174, member: 1364"] I'm afraid that as a matter of formal logic, it is. If A, B and C are sub-sets of X, an element in X is not definitionally in A. The element could be in B or C without being in A. As my bicycle argument shows, imagery has quite a bit to do with the fantasy genre. Please explain how "classic fantasy" is "left field". You continue to assert that fantasy and fiction are synonymous despite earlier acknowledging that they aren't. Just because something is fictional doesn't mean it must logically be part of the fantasy genre. As you already know, I've referred to [i]Realms of Fantasy[/i]. I didn't contribute to the debate in that magazine. The definitions aren't mine.Tolkien was opposed to the introduction of (pseudo-)science/technology in fantasy, and both Hickman & Weis and Poul Anderson have played on the difference between fantasy and sci-fi. While there are authors who disagree with me, I'm in pretty good company. [/QUOTE]

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