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<blockquote data-quote="Cadence" data-source="post: 8509661" data-attributes="member: 6701124">In Shadowrun 4e: &quot;The Awakened world is permeated by mana, the energy of magic.&nbsp; Mana is invisible and intangible.&nbsp; It cannot be detected, measured, or influenced by machines, only by living beings.&nbsp; Mana is sensitive to emotion and responds to the will of the Awakened.&nbsp; It allows magicians to cast spells and summon spirits.&nbsp; [...]&nbsp; Magic can be defined as the manipulation of mana.&nbsp; Sorcery is the manipulation of mana to create or influence effects known as spells; Conjuring manipulates mana to call forth or affect spirits.&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;The Magic attirbute is only available to characters with the Magician, Adept, or Mystic Adept Qualities.&quot;This having something that only certain people can sense and use - no matter what technology or training is used - feels like something that would give a dividing line between STEM and something super-STEM.&nbsp;&nbsp; I'm sure it has some flaws, but if one went with that, would it make psionics just be STEM if the stuff being manipulated could be detected, measured, and influenced by machines or any trained living thing (so we can make a device to see and deflect the brain waves, or we could train pretty much anyone to do it), but be super-STEM if there's no way to do those things?Edit: I might have the &quot;no matter what training part&quot; wrong from the game standpoint, but it makes it seem even more supernaturally.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cadence, post: 8509661, member: 6701124"] In Shadowrun 4e: "The Awakened world is permeated by mana, the energy of magic. Mana is invisible and intangible. It cannot be detected, measured, or influenced by machines, only by living beings. Mana is sensitive to emotion and responds to the will of the Awakened. It allows magicians to cast spells and summon spirits. [...] Magic can be defined as the manipulation of mana. Sorcery is the manipulation of mana to create or influence effects known as spells; Conjuring manipulates mana to call forth or affect spirits." "The Magic attirbute is only available to characters with the Magician, Adept, or Mystic Adept Qualities." This having something that only certain people can sense and use - no matter what technology or training is used - feels like something that would give a dividing line between STEM and something super-STEM. I'm sure it has some flaws, but if one went with that, would it make psionics just be STEM if the stuff being manipulated could be detected, measured, and influenced by machines or any trained living thing (so we can make a device to see and deflect the brain waves, or we could train pretty much anyone to do it), but be super-STEM if there's no way to do those things? Edit: I might have the "no matter what training part" wrong from the game standpoint, but it makes it seem even more supernaturally. [/QUOTE]

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