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<blockquote data-quote="EscherEnigma" data-source="post: 8098152" data-attributes="member: 6750014">If the only difference between a &quot;psionic&quot; telekinesis and a &quot;magical&quot; telekinesis is whether or not the sorcerer used a spell point to make it subtle, I think that puts us back in the &quot;a sorcerer with careful spell selection and the subtle metamagic is a psion&quot; territory.Heck, if you're okay saying &quot;for the really difficult tricks, I need to use this specially prepared crystal to focus my mental energies&quot;, then you can even do spells with material components.&nbsp; And when you're out of sorcery points (which will cover at least half your spells/day at all levels)?&nbsp; &quot;Look, if I wasn't tired, I could just think at them, but I'm tired, so I'm mumbling mantras and putting my hand up to my forehead like Jean Grey&quot;.I mean, thinking of comic-book psionics, a whole mess of 'em both shout out things when they're doing their mind-witchery and make various hand gestures... sure, that's because a character standing their stoically and not saying a word is far less interesting on a comic book page, but still.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="EscherEnigma, post: 8098152, member: 6750014"] If the only difference between a "psionic" [I]telekinesis [/I]and a "magical" [I]telekinesis[/I] is whether or not the sorcerer used a spell point to make it subtle, I think that puts us back in the "a sorcerer with careful spell selection and the subtle metamagic is a psion" territory. Heck, if you're okay saying "for the really difficult tricks, I need to use this specially prepared crystal to focus my mental energies", then you can even do spells with material components. And when you're out of sorcery points (which will cover at least half your spells/day at all levels)? "Look, if I wasn't tired, I could just [I]think[/I] at them, but I'm tired, so I'm mumbling mantras and putting my hand up to my forehead like Jean Grey". I mean, thinking of comic-book psionics, a whole mess of 'em both shout out things when they're doing their mind-witchery and make various hand gestures... sure, that's because a character standing their stoically and not saying a word is far less interesting on a comic book page, but still. [/QUOTE]

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