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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8099383" data-attributes="member: 6801228">That is not how DnD effects work. This is not a system with a dozen different interactions between types of the same ability. If their years of effort is "not trying very hard" within the context of the system they created, then what you really want was for them to completely remake 5e. And 5 years into the cycle, that isn't going to happen. And, just to give a taste of the problem with trying to do what you are proposing within our current system, let us look at two things that are very explicit. See InvisibilityFaerie FireBoth of these abilities state that they cancel the Invisibility mechanic, in different ways. See Invisibility just states outright "you can see invisible creatures as though they were visible." Now, imagine you have someone cast this spell, to see an invisible enemy. And the DM replies that "You can't see him, his invisibility works by affecting your mind to make you believe you aren't seeing him, so this spell wouldn't let you alter your mind to break that."Or, let us take Faerie Fire, which cancels invisibility by attaching to the creature, and outlining it. And you try that a different time, and the DM responds "You can't see him. This invisibility works by phasing him partially into the Far Realms, he isn't really here and it is only his mind that is attacking you, so the Faerie Fire will simply pass through and do nothing." Two just very basic ways that your proposed ideas would wreck the game. See Invisibility would be worthless, because it would be "See Some Invisibility as long as the DM determined this type of invisibility was the type that can be seen through" This also opens up all sorts of exploits that would be pointless. "I'm sorry, I know you created an anti-Magic bubble, but this Cone of Cold works by opening a tiny portal to the Plane of Endless Ice, the cold that flowed out and hit you was real cold, not magical cold, so your anti-magic didn't stop it. Would have worked if the enemy hadn't been able to get out of the bubble, but since they can mentally fold space to teleport using just the power of their mind (which isn't magic as I explained, and since it wasn't a spell I can still cast Cone of Cold by opening the portal) but since they could, they could still do this." No. Yes, it can be cool and interesting to have things work that way in fiction. Heck, if you build a system that can handle that from the start, it can make a good game. But DnD was not designed with that sort of exception based ruling in mind, so adding it in now would be a disaster.</blockquote>

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