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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8101479" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>So, the fact that everyone is aware of it is why Sabathus said "why is that powerful, sorcerers do it" referencing an ability with no displays to avoid that power boost? </p><p></p><p>I would think his response would be more "yes, that is a power boost which is why everyone is advocating for displays". Which... is not what he said. And while that may be your position which you are advocating for, I have no way to know if that is his position that he is advocating for.</p><p></p><p>And none of that changes that you immediately jumping to my point being wrong, because of course the PCs would have displays, when you were the first one to bring displays into that line of discussion.... seems to be you interjecting your premises into a discussion that did not include those premises.</p><p></p><p>In fact, instead of responding to me, to tell me that I was wrong, why did you not respond to [USER=6906155]@Paul Farquhar[/USER] to tell him that he knows that is not what is being advocated for and that his example and concerns were a Red Herring and a Strawman?</p><p></p><p>---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Right, and this is one aspect that Displays and such cannot really counter. They may make you light up like a christmas tree, but since you can still cast anyways without the need for moving or vocalizing, the ability to enact countermeasures is greatly curtailed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8101479, member: 6801228"] So, the fact that everyone is aware of it is why Sabathus said "why is that powerful, sorcerers do it" referencing an ability with no displays to avoid that power boost? I would think his response would be more "yes, that is a power boost which is why everyone is advocating for displays". Which... is not what he said. And while that may be your position which you are advocating for, I have no way to know if that is his position that he is advocating for. And none of that changes that you immediately jumping to my point being wrong, because of course the PCs would have displays, when you were the first one to bring displays into that line of discussion.... seems to be you interjecting your premises into a discussion that did not include those premises. In fact, instead of responding to me, to tell me that I was wrong, why did you not respond to [USER=6906155]@Paul Farquhar[/USER] to tell him that he knows that is not what is being advocated for and that his example and concerns were a Red Herring and a Strawman? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Right, and this is one aspect that Displays and such cannot really counter. They may make you light up like a christmas tree, but since you can still cast anyways without the need for moving or vocalizing, the ability to enact countermeasures is greatly curtailed. [/QUOTE]
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