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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8103466" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Well, the argument of "it isn't a problem if I homebrew it not to be a problem" is not exactly the most convincing one. Especially from you, since you tend to enjoy RAW so very much when you agree with it.Right, because abilities like Charm, Dominate, Sleep, Suggestion, Hold Person, and the like completely do not exist. You know, things that if cast silently would turn the guard into a willing accomplice (no alarm), a non-issue (no alarm) or unable to act or move (no alarm)Whether or not the Psion could get away after whatever they do depends on the ability, but some of these abilities last up to an hour.Yes, someone else brought it up. They were not proposing it for our hypothetical situation. That last post being the first time this "Psion Prisoner being transported" scenario was proposed that wearing a metal helmet might cancel their powers. I consider that you had to finally bring up something like this as proof that there needs to be some way to counter psions though, since you are likely beginning to see my problem.Or you don't. Instead you go to the NOT!Jedi academy and get taught by the order. Or you have a tribe of desert people or a cult who have unlocked the secrets and every member and child is taught them. Or there is a secret government program to abduct children and train them as psychic assassins for infiltration missions. You can't just declare "Psions don't have schools or colleges" when some of the most well known plots involving Psychics involve exactly that. Schools, colleges, monasteries, ect.So, it is self defense to beat and torture a man who is excersising Self-Defense against the people who beat him, tied him up, and started dragging him off somewhere against his will. I'm going to go with no. No, that isn't how I would see that situation. Also, again, this is just a bad narrative dichotomy. Either the Psion is meek, and does not resist being taken against their will. Or you must beat and torture them until they are unable to resist you. Until we implement other rules to stop Psionic abilities via easily obtainable ways, these are the only two options.</blockquote>

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