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<blockquote data-quote="JiffyPopTart" data-source="post: 8103783" data-attributes="member: 4881"><p>This is going to be another case of "It's your game, play how you want".</p><p></p><p>As I stated previously, a rat swarm in the rules is a distinct entity from 18 individual rats sharing the same space. They are distinct in description and distinct in abilities. 18 rats would have 18 HP, 18 +0 attacks that do 1HP of damage each. 1 rat swarm consisting of 18 rats would have 24HP, 1 +2 attack that did 2d6 or 1d6 damage, a boatload of immunities, and resistance to damage.</p><p></p><p>In my opinion, as a GM, in order to be fair to the players it would be necessary to describe the rats presented as an encounter as either being 18 individual or 1 swarm. The players need to have this information in order to plan and execute combat. Narratively, there is no difference between 18 individual rats and 1 swarm, but for application of the rules of 5e there is a distinct difference and I think its unfair to the players to not point it out.</p><p></p><p>If you, as a GM, do not think its appropriate to disclose that this is a swarm versus individuals then you are welcome to do so in your game. I'm not telling you that you are doing it wrong, i'm just telling you that I think that choice unfairly allows the cranium rats (in the specific example we are discussing) to go unnoticed as a potential opponent and because of this it is a poor example of how componentless casting can be unnoticable.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JiffyPopTart, post: 8103783, member: 4881"] This is going to be another case of "It's your game, play how you want". As I stated previously, a rat swarm in the rules is a distinct entity from 18 individual rats sharing the same space. They are distinct in description and distinct in abilities. 18 rats would have 18 HP, 18 +0 attacks that do 1HP of damage each. 1 rat swarm consisting of 18 rats would have 24HP, 1 +2 attack that did 2d6 or 1d6 damage, a boatload of immunities, and resistance to damage. In my opinion, as a GM, in order to be fair to the players it would be necessary to describe the rats presented as an encounter as either being 18 individual or 1 swarm. The players need to have this information in order to plan and execute combat. Narratively, there is no difference between 18 individual rats and 1 swarm, but for application of the rules of 5e there is a distinct difference and I think its unfair to the players to not point it out. If you, as a GM, do not think its appropriate to disclose that this is a swarm versus individuals then you are welcome to do so in your game. I'm not telling you that you are doing it wrong, i'm just telling you that I think that choice unfairly allows the cranium rats (in the specific example we are discussing) to go unnoticed as a potential opponent and because of this it is a poor example of how componentless casting can be unnoticable. [/QUOTE]
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