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<blockquote data-quote="Staffan" data-source="post: 650205" data-attributes="member: 907"><p>If you compare those numbers to a sorcerer of equal level, the psion pales quite a bit, at least when you look at the high-level powers. Sure, the psion can use 5 5th-level powers and have power to spare for a 4th level power as well. However, the 10th level sorcerer can use almost as many 5th-level powers (three of them), and can use *five* 4th-level powers on top of that, not to mention the six powers each of levels 1 through 3 (well, 0 to 3, but cantrips aren't all that interesting).</p><p></p><p>In addition, the sorcerer's lower-level spells are often more useful at higher levels than the psion's low-level powers. The obvious example is damage: the 10th level sorcerer does 10d6 fire damage with one 3rd-level power, Fireball. If he really wants to, he can cast it 14 times per day (using his 4th and 5th-level slots as well). The psion's equivalent, Whitefire, can only be cast 10 times per day (and the sorcerer would have more ability left to cast 1st and 2nd level spells, while the psion would be almost totally exhausted). As if that wasn't enough, the psion does less than half the damage the sorcerer does: 5d4 rather than 10d6. That's an average of 12.5 versus 35.</p><p></p><p>Also, you're using the power boost the psion gets from If Thoughts Could Kill. The "regular" psion only gets 43 PP at 10th level, which is only enough for 4 5th-level powers (with one 4th-level to spare) - only one more than the sorcerer, and that's when not using any lower-level powers. To continue the Whitefire-Fireball comparison, the psion only gets 8 Whitefires compared to the sorcerer's 14 fireballs.</p><p></p><p>Sometimes I think that they tried to balance the psion's flexibility to the *wizard's* spells per day, rather than the sorcerer's. That's possibly one reason why psions are so weak.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Staffan, post: 650205, member: 907"] If you compare those numbers to a sorcerer of equal level, the psion pales quite a bit, at least when you look at the high-level powers. Sure, the psion can use 5 5th-level powers and have power to spare for a 4th level power as well. However, the 10th level sorcerer can use almost as many 5th-level powers (three of them), and can use *five* 4th-level powers on top of that, not to mention the six powers each of levels 1 through 3 (well, 0 to 3, but cantrips aren't all that interesting). In addition, the sorcerer's lower-level spells are often more useful at higher levels than the psion's low-level powers. The obvious example is damage: the 10th level sorcerer does 10d6 fire damage with one 3rd-level power, Fireball. If he really wants to, he can cast it 14 times per day (using his 4th and 5th-level slots as well). The psion's equivalent, Whitefire, can only be cast 10 times per day (and the sorcerer would have more ability left to cast 1st and 2nd level spells, while the psion would be almost totally exhausted). As if that wasn't enough, the psion does less than half the damage the sorcerer does: 5d4 rather than 10d6. That's an average of 12.5 versus 35. Also, you're using the power boost the psion gets from If Thoughts Could Kill. The "regular" psion only gets 43 PP at 10th level, which is only enough for 4 5th-level powers (with one 4th-level to spare) - only one more than the sorcerer, and that's when not using any lower-level powers. To continue the Whitefire-Fireball comparison, the psion only gets 8 Whitefires compared to the sorcerer's 14 fireballs. Sometimes I think that they tried to balance the psion's flexibility to the *wizard's* spells per day, rather than the sorcerer's. That's possibly one reason why psions are so weak. [/QUOTE]
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