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<blockquote data-quote="Spatzimaus" data-source="post: 434755" data-attributes="member: 3051">Psion damage powers stink anyways.&nbsp; Take Whitefire, for example.&nbsp; Same range and spread as a Fireball.&nbsp; Same level.&nbsp; Same in every way but damage.Whitefire: 5d4Fireball: minimum 5d6, maximum 10d6So, if my caster level is 10 or more, Fireball does 3 times as much damage as Whitefire.Psions get some GREAT utility powers.&nbsp; They also get divinations and charm spells at lower levels than Wizards do (Charm Monster at 3!).&nbsp; But, if you're using offensive powers requiring a save, you're probably hosed anyway.Most Psions won't have as high of a prime stat as Wizards would, simply because you have to spread out your points a bit if you want powers from other disciplines.&nbsp; I've got a Shaper, for example, but he wanted to be able to Teleport (DEX 15), Polymorph Self (STR 14), and Inertial Barrier (CON 14).&nbsp; That doesn't leave a lot of room for him to pump up his INT; if he drops some of those other stats, the spell list gets really thin.&nbsp; So, instead of trying to be an offensive powerhouse (no need, there's a Sorcerer in the group) I spread the stats around and load up on utility powers.The trick is, find powers that avoid this altogether.&nbsp; For example, Mass Cocoon (level 7, INT).&nbsp; Great power.&nbsp; As long as the target can fit into a 10' cube, it's effectively Held for 2 hours per level, no saving throw, no SR.&nbsp; Someone inside can't use verbal or somatic components, and ethereal travel is blocked.&nbsp; The cocoon has hardness 25 and 100 HP so it's really tough to cut through (and the person inside isn't the one doing the cutting), and can't be dispelled.&nbsp; It can even hit multiple targets at once.&nbsp; The downside is, they have to be in Close range.Sure, a dragon will be too big for this, but most outsiders or humanoid NPCs will fit just fine.&nbsp; If your DM likes throwing one insanely-powerful guy at you, this can sometimes stop them cold.&quot;Now you will feel the wrath of&quot;...ZAP...&quot;mmmffff&quot; &quot;Anyone want to Coup de Grace him, or should I?&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Spatzimaus, post: 434755, member: 3051"] Psion damage powers stink anyways. Take Whitefire, for example. Same range and spread as a Fireball. Same level. Same in every way but damage. Whitefire: 5d4 Fireball: minimum 5d6, maximum 10d6 So, if my caster level is 10 or more, Fireball does 3 times as much damage as Whitefire. Psions get some GREAT utility powers. They also get divinations and charm spells at lower levels than Wizards do (Charm Monster at 3!). But, if you're using offensive powers requiring a save, you're probably hosed anyway. Most Psions won't have as high of a prime stat as Wizards would, simply because you have to spread out your points a bit if you want powers from other disciplines. I've got a Shaper, for example, but he wanted to be able to Teleport (DEX 15), Polymorph Self (STR 14), and Inertial Barrier (CON 14). That doesn't leave a lot of room for him to pump up his INT; if he drops some of those other stats, the spell list gets really thin. So, instead of trying to be an offensive powerhouse (no need, there's a Sorcerer in the group) I spread the stats around and load up on utility powers. The trick is, find powers that avoid this altogether. For example, Mass Cocoon (level 7, INT). Great power. As long as the target can fit into a 10' cube, it's effectively Held for 2 hours per level, no saving throw, no SR. Someone inside can't use verbal or somatic components, and ethereal travel is blocked. The cocoon has hardness 25 and 100 HP so it's really tough to cut through (and the person inside isn't the one doing the cutting), and can't be dispelled. It can even hit multiple targets at once. The downside is, they have to be in Close range. Sure, a dragon will be too big for this, but most outsiders or humanoid NPCs will fit just fine. If your DM likes throwing one insanely-powerful guy at you, this can sometimes stop them cold. "Now you will feel the wrath of"...ZAP..."mmmffff" "Anyone want to Coup de Grace him, or should I?" [/QUOTE]

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