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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sadrik" data-source="post: 6371433" data-attributes="member: 14506">Agreed.INT arcane figure it out and unlock itWIS innate internally intuit the powerCHA divine relationship with an entityTwo ways of handing it. Some telepath abilities should not be dependent on the creature having a mind. Or grant them limited access to other powers.Another possible route is through creature design, don't make blanket immunities. All undead should not be immune to mind effecting, only mindless ones.Vermin should not be immune to a telepath.Also agreed. Many of the psion themes are also major themes of arcane casters:Clarsentience = divinationPsychoportation = conjurationTelepath = enchantmentPsychokinetist = evocationAlso time manipulation is a theme they have but also fits into the arcane area of transmutationThis makes me think, should these other arcane sub-classes benefit from these similar themes? my answer is they should. Psions will assuredly take some of the spells/powers from the arcane classes they should give some to them as well. Further a psionic monk subclass would be good.Agreed though a psychic "firestarter" might have access to fireball and they should do equal damage to the wizard.Yeah, that would be cool.I think make them vancian casters and them allow other optional mechanics from the dmg to allow power/spell points.</blockquote>