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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Flights of Fancy" data-source="post: 9671506" data-attributes="member: 7037975">But ultimately they are just hitting and moving, as spellcasters are just casting spells (and moving).What makes the Monk and Rogue unique are the abilities they have outside of hitting and moving. There isn't a lot of uniqueness to the Fighter and Barbarian outside of those.Likewise, there isn't much uniquness to the Psion/Sorcerer/Wizard outside of casting spells, but there is uniqueness for the Bard, Cleric, Druid, and Warlock even.So while my view is broader, it still stands.It is why I've argued Barbarian as a subclass of Fighter works, and why Sorcerer (and even Psion now) would make good subclasses for Wizard. Frankly, I surprised they focused Psion on Intelligence and not Wisdom. The concepts of Insight and Persception seem more meaningful to a "mentally-powered" arcane caster. Just like Charisma (or even Constitution) makes sense for a "channeling-powered" arcane caster. Leaving the wizard as the Intelligence "book-learning-formula-powered" arcane caster.However, by putting Psion in Intelligence, you are already shifting it to just a "different" Wizard instead of something unique. Obviously it isn't the only issue, just a contributing one since it is there right in your face, so to say.EDIT: Make some of those shifts and for Pete's sake remove 65% of the spell overlap and things would be better in my opinion.The question begs: what other things could psion, sorcerer, or wizard do which is NOT casting spells to give them uniqueness on par with the other spellcasting classes?</blockquote>

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