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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 5239633" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>Which is fine, but that's all basically genera words for 'science fiction magician' (and specifically Alfred Bester). So are you saying that when people want 'psionics', they mean that they want science fiction genera tropes rather than fantasy ones? Spaceships, FTL travel, computers, ray guns, that sort of thing?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's never really been said in D&D whether Wizards are gifted, and possessing of a innate power by birth. It probably varies from campaign to campaign even if you stick to strictly Vancian spellcasting whether people are born Wizards or whether anyone with sufficient intelligence to become literate can become a Wizard. And, its worth noting that a Sorcerer is just on one level as 'mutant, possessed of an innate power by birth'. How is a sorcerer not a psionic?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But neither then is the traditional D&D wizard.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But while that flavor is implied by Wizards, its not a particularly strongly implemented aspect of D&D. The rules, if there are any, governing 'true names' have always been vague. It's never really said how and why spellcasting works. And in any event, its not at all clear that the sorcerer for example does or does not tap 'words of power' or whether they just manifest innate power and authority, yet they have basically the same spell list as a wizard.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I googled 'creating ground of being' and came up only with this page. I have no idea what that term of art means, nor am I sure what differentiates it from 'the created world'. Are you trying to say that psyches are made (by application of technology?) not born? Or are you trying to say that they are born and not made, like say a sorcerer?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So a Sorcerer then?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 5239633, member: 4937"] Which is fine, but that's all basically genera words for 'science fiction magician' (and specifically Alfred Bester). So are you saying that when people want 'psionics', they mean that they want science fiction genera tropes rather than fantasy ones? Spaceships, FTL travel, computers, ray guns, that sort of thing? It's never really been said in D&D whether Wizards are gifted, and possessing of a innate power by birth. It probably varies from campaign to campaign even if you stick to strictly Vancian spellcasting whether people are born Wizards or whether anyone with sufficient intelligence to become literate can become a Wizard. And, its worth noting that a Sorcerer is just on one level as 'mutant, possessed of an innate power by birth'. How is a sorcerer not a psionic? But neither then is the traditional D&D wizard. But while that flavor is implied by Wizards, its not a particularly strongly implemented aspect of D&D. The rules, if there are any, governing 'true names' have always been vague. It's never really said how and why spellcasting works. And in any event, its not at all clear that the sorcerer for example does or does not tap 'words of power' or whether they just manifest innate power and authority, yet they have basically the same spell list as a wizard. I googled 'creating ground of being' and came up only with this page. I have no idea what that term of art means, nor am I sure what differentiates it from 'the created world'. Are you trying to say that psyches are made (by application of technology?) not born? Or are you trying to say that they are born and not made, like say a sorcerer? So a Sorcerer then? [/QUOTE]
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