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<blockquote data-quote="Thorgrim Sekkrhrafn" data-source="post: 5796462" data-attributes="member: 54900">Don't think Saga of the Plieocene Exile is fantasy?&nbsp; Huh.&nbsp; Okay, YMMV.&nbsp; But one might as well be consistent about it, right?&nbsp; Because by that defintion...&nbsp;...neither is the Expedition to Barrier Peaks fantasy.&nbsp;...nor should you even allude to spells&nbsp; or 'powers' that mimic clearly psionic abilities (telepathy, telekinesis).&nbsp;...nor should you bother with WoW-styled, wonky, super-hero like 'powers', a la 4E, as many are clearly inspired by, what else?, super-heroes, a genre that's firmly in the core of science fiction.&nbsp;The lines of delineation are not as clear as you would have them.&nbsp; At the extremes, sure.&nbsp; Star Trek is clearly science fiction.&nbsp; Lord of the Rings is clearly fantasy.&nbsp;But what is the Prince of Nothing/Aspect-Emperor series by R. Scott Bakker?&nbsp; That's just as much fantasy in style as LotR or Song of Fire and Ice or take-your-pick generic Conan novel.&nbsp; And yet the alluded 'secret history' background for the world is decidedly science fiction, with the Consult, the No-God, the background for the skin-spies and Sranc being clearly alien and science fiction in nature.&nbsp; The same for M.A.R. Barker's Empire of the Petal Throne series.&nbsp;It's a spectrum, with only the extremes being clearly defined.&nbsp; Everything else...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Thorgrim Sekkrhrafn, post: 5796462, member: 54900"] Don't think Saga of the Plieocene Exile is fantasy? Huh. Okay, YMMV. But one might as well be consistent about it, right? Because by that defintion... ...neither is the Expedition to Barrier Peaks fantasy. ...nor should you even allude to spells or 'powers' that mimic clearly psionic abilities (telepathy, telekinesis). ...nor should you bother with WoW-styled, wonky, super-hero like 'powers', a la 4E, as many are clearly inspired by, what else?, super-heroes, a genre that's firmly in the core of science fiction. The lines of delineation are not as clear as you would have them. At the extremes, sure. Star Trek is clearly science fiction. Lord of the Rings is clearly fantasy. But what is the Prince of Nothing/Aspect-Emperor series by R. Scott Bakker? That's just as much fantasy in style as LotR or Song of Fire and Ice or take-your-pick generic Conan novel. And yet the alluded 'secret history' background for the world is decidedly science fiction, with the Consult, the No-God, the background for the skin-spies and Sranc being clearly alien and science fiction in nature. The same for M.A.R. Barker's Empire of the Petal Throne series. It's a spectrum, with only the extremes being clearly defined. Everything else... [/QUOTE]

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