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<blockquote data-quote="Thanee" data-source="post: 1703804" data-attributes="member: 478"><p>Yeah, that's why I included that part, to avoid confusion because of this. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Erm... I can't follow you there... which way!?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>A lot of people (taken from polls on this board) share the experience, that the fighter is actually pretty strong.</p><p></p><p>I do agree, however, that they are pretty boring and more suited for multiclassing (which, I believe, is actually one reason, why they are not so strong as a class by itself, since they are better for multiclassing. IIRC there even was something like this being said by the designers. That doesn't mean, that I agree with this logic, BTW).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>A weird conclusion IMHO. What I meant is, that buffing has a cost and should have a cost, which is the time needed to buff. If that cost is taken away, buffing, which results in a better ability than what others have unbuffed (which is fair, since it is temporary and costs time to put up), becomes the superior ability, and thus is not balanced anymore.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, we've seen in 3.0 (cleric), how things turn out, if that cost is taken away (persistent, 1h/lvl durations, etc).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not at all, since the psychic warrior also has other abilities beyond that, which compensate for this lack. If the psychic warrior can compete with a pure warrior class (fighter, barbarian, etc) without any such cost, and also has the additional abilities, <em>then</em> something is wrong.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Vastly inferior is a bit much for sure, since the Fighter is only marginally better than a Warrior (you said that), right?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Erm... yeah, right! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Do you have the same book I have?</p><p></p><p>It really looks like you have never seen a Psychic Warrior in action.</p><p>Fully buffed they are about as powerful as buffed up Clerics.</p><p></p><p>Bye</p><p>Thanee</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thanee, post: 1703804, member: 478"] Yeah, that's why I included that part, to avoid confusion because of this. :) Erm... I can't follow you there... which way!? A lot of people (taken from polls on this board) share the experience, that the fighter is actually pretty strong. I do agree, however, that they are pretty boring and more suited for multiclassing (which, I believe, is actually one reason, why they are not so strong as a class by itself, since they are better for multiclassing. IIRC there even was something like this being said by the designers. That doesn't mean, that I agree with this logic, BTW). A weird conclusion IMHO. What I meant is, that buffing has a cost and should have a cost, which is the time needed to buff. If that cost is taken away, buffing, which results in a better ability than what others have unbuffed (which is fair, since it is temporary and costs time to put up), becomes the superior ability, and thus is not balanced anymore. Well, we've seen in 3.0 (cleric), how things turn out, if that cost is taken away (persistent, 1h/lvl durations, etc). Not at all, since the psychic warrior also has other abilities beyond that, which compensate for this lack. If the psychic warrior can compete with a pure warrior class (fighter, barbarian, etc) without any such cost, and also has the additional abilities, [i]then[/i] something is wrong. Vastly inferior is a bit much for sure, since the Fighter is only marginally better than a Warrior (you said that), right? Erm... yeah, right! ;) Do you have the same book I have? It really looks like you have never seen a Psychic Warrior in action. Fully buffed they are about as powerful as buffed up Clerics. Bye Thanee [/QUOTE]
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