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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Prestidigitalis" data-source="post: 5044886" data-attributes="member: 74496">But nowhere in D&D 4e is the term "pacifist" defined, so we are stuck using real world definitions, and that just doesn't work here.There are plenty of real world pacifists who see nothing wrong with eating meat, but to Jainism the practice is abhorrent.  Which one qualifies for Pacifist Healer in your book?Black and White distinctions work fine in D&D, but they have to make sense in the specific campaign world in question.  Just think of the Melnibonean ethos, where the grand cosmic war is between Law and Chaos rather than between Good and Evil.In short, if a particular DM believes that Pacifism in the campaign world means "not killing members of one's own species" then THAT is what Pacifism means, and THAT is the most sensible basis for deciding whether Pacifist Healer makes sense.</blockquote>