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<blockquote data-quote="Vocenoctum" data-source="post: 2923939" data-attributes="member: 2477"><p>I think the other part that is missing from the Online Retailer discussion is that the discount allows for higher retail prices. As prices have gone up, more people will buy at a discount. If a book is priced at $40 that used to be $30, but I can get it on Amazon or Buy.com for $26, I'm fine. The bookmaker is also better off, because he's getting 40% of $40 instead of 40% of $30. Most of the time, the booktrade is paying distributor pricing.</p><p></p><p>You have people buying discount because of the higher price, compared to people that simply wouldn't pay the higher price at all if they didn't get a discount.</p><p></p><p>This of course hurts the LGS, but since I stopped going to mine because of their suckage anyway, I don't care. WotC used to delay Bookstore releases to the end of the month, giving LGS a nice lead, time wise. They don't anymore, and I think that's because appeasing a section of your market that is increasingly irrelevant doesn't really make good business sense. If folks want to embrace their LGS for emotional reasons, more power to you, but that doesn't make the rest of us bad.</p><p></p><p></p><p>In regards to Ptolus specifically, the contract could have been adjusted to provide for less of a discount. Obviously it's not bound by the same deal anyway, given they're not selling it to the Booktrade at all (directly). I personally believe it has as much to do with not pissing off those that pre-ordered months ago, as much as LGS stuff. Having someone give you $120 (or $10 a month) forever ago, then seeing they could have waited and gotten it for $75, might shake even the Monte Fans resolve. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Also, Amazon does buy stuff from the game trade sometimes, these cost them more and they don't discount them much, if at all. In addition, Amazon might ask for longer terms, but at least (IMO) you're pretty likely to get it at that 180 day mark. From what I've read on the distributors, that 90 days is more of a "guideline to be ignored"... quite often.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vocenoctum, post: 2923939, member: 2477"] I think the other part that is missing from the Online Retailer discussion is that the discount allows for higher retail prices. As prices have gone up, more people will buy at a discount. If a book is priced at $40 that used to be $30, but I can get it on Amazon or Buy.com for $26, I'm fine. The bookmaker is also better off, because he's getting 40% of $40 instead of 40% of $30. Most of the time, the booktrade is paying distributor pricing. You have people buying discount because of the higher price, compared to people that simply wouldn't pay the higher price at all if they didn't get a discount. This of course hurts the LGS, but since I stopped going to mine because of their suckage anyway, I don't care. WotC used to delay Bookstore releases to the end of the month, giving LGS a nice lead, time wise. They don't anymore, and I think that's because appeasing a section of your market that is increasingly irrelevant doesn't really make good business sense. If folks want to embrace their LGS for emotional reasons, more power to you, but that doesn't make the rest of us bad. In regards to Ptolus specifically, the contract could have been adjusted to provide for less of a discount. Obviously it's not bound by the same deal anyway, given they're not selling it to the Booktrade at all (directly). I personally believe it has as much to do with not pissing off those that pre-ordered months ago, as much as LGS stuff. Having someone give you $120 (or $10 a month) forever ago, then seeing they could have waited and gotten it for $75, might shake even the Monte Fans resolve. :) Also, Amazon does buy stuff from the game trade sometimes, these cost them more and they don't discount them much, if at all. In addition, Amazon might ask for longer terms, but at least (IMO) you're pretty likely to get it at that 180 day mark. From what I've read on the distributors, that 90 days is more of a "guideline to be ignored"... quite often. [/QUOTE]
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