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<blockquote data-quote="woodelf" data-source="post: 945215" data-attributes="member: 10201">I assume by &quot;d20 customers&quot; you mean &quot;d20-but-not-D&amp;D customers&quot;, because otherwise it's a superset of D&amp;D customers, by definition. They're definitely not the same crowd.&nbsp; Poke around RPGnet for a while, and you'll see a reasonable populace of people who aren't interested in D&amp;D but either don't mind some of the other versions of D20 out there, or are willing to put up with it becaues of the games in question (especially licensed games).&nbsp; Then, too, there are those of us who recognize that &quot;D20 System&quot; is a pretty broad umbrella, and have problems with the system that are relatively specific to D&amp;D.&nbsp; Frex, i'd never run a D&amp;D3E game, and i only played in one reluctantly, but i *love* Spycraft--i so want to play a game of that, and i don't even particularly like the genre--and i think that M&amp;MM is one of the better games out there, and probably the best D20 game to date--precisely *because* of how different from D&amp;D it is.&nbsp; [Well, hell, i'd even be willing to run a &quot;D&amp;D&quot; game, just not with D&amp;D3E (or 3.5E)--maybe with Arcana Unearthed or Everquest, or with the rules i'm workingon right now, which are essentially a reworking of D&amp;D (much like AU), but i digress.]Again, depends who you mean.&nbsp; If you mean &quot;D20-but-not-D&amp;D&quot;, i don't think they even care--and why should they?&nbsp; They'll go on playnig Spycraft, or CoC D20, or T20, or M&amp;MM, or Farscape, or whatever, and never even look at the new D&amp;D books.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="woodelf, post: 945215, member: 10201"] I assume by "d20 customers" you mean "d20-but-not-D&D customers", because otherwise it's a superset of D&D customers, by definition. They're definitely not the same crowd. Poke around RPGnet for a while, and you'll see a reasonable populace of people who aren't interested in D&D but either don't mind some of the other versions of D20 out there, or are willing to put up with it becaues of the games in question (especially licensed games). Then, too, there are those of us who recognize that "D20 System" is a pretty broad umbrella, and have problems with the system that are relatively specific to D&D. Frex, i'd never run a D&D3E game, and i only played in one reluctantly, but i *love* Spycraft--i [i]so[/i] want to play a game of that, and i don't even particularly like the genre--and i think that M&MM is one of the better games out there, and probably the best D20 game to date--precisely *because* of how different from D&D it is. [Well, hell, i'd even be willing to run a "D&D" game, just not with D&D3E (or 3.5E)--maybe with Arcana Unearthed or Everquest, or with the rules i'm workingon right now, which are essentially a reworking of D&D (much like AU), but i digress.] Again, depends who you mean. If you mean "D20-but-not-D&D", i don't think they even care--and why should they? They'll go on playnig Spycraft, or CoC D20, or T20, or M&MM, or Farscape, or whatever, and never even look at the new D&D books. [/QUOTE]

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