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<blockquote data-quote="JeffB" data-source="post: 7163795" data-attributes="member: 518">I know exactly how you feel. I want to support 5th and play it, but it doesn't do classic D&amp;D all that well (it is still slower to play, more rules crunchy, and too&nbsp; codified to support interesting improvisation) , nor does it bring anything new to the table, barring A/D. And the product line has bored me to tears.&nbsp; As a DM, no motivation other than &quot;feel good&quot; reasons. I keep futzing with it, like I feel I am obligated to. Its like when I was younger and I would get a date with a really good looking girl/woman , and once you went out you realized there was no personality. You go out a few times because they are so good looking, but there is nothing there for you. But of course, someone else will find them to be a perfect match.There's an ass for every seat <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />I prefer OD&amp;D/OSR variants (with some houserules)&nbsp; when I want to play D&amp;D...for a lot of reasons. Or something like WhiteStar for space fantasy. Otherwise, I prefer modern narrative systems -Dungeon World for fantasy, and FFG Star Wars. Those two in particular l, really scratch my itch and I get fired up just thinking about them.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="JeffB, post: 7163795, member: 518"] I know exactly how you feel. I want to support 5th and play it, but it doesn't do classic D&D all that well (it is still slower to play, more rules crunchy, and too codified to support interesting improvisation) , nor does it bring anything new to the table, barring A/D. And the product line has bored me to tears. As a DM, no motivation other than "feel good" reasons. I keep futzing with it, like I feel I am obligated to. Its like when I was younger and I would get a date with a really good looking girl/woman , and once you went out you realized there was no personality. You go out a few times because they are so good looking, but there is nothing there for you. But of course, someone else will find them to be a perfect match. There's an ass for every seat ;) I prefer OD&D/OSR variants (with some houserules) when I want to play D&D...for a lot of reasons. Or something like WhiteStar for space fantasy. Otherwise, I prefer modern narrative systems -Dungeon World for fantasy, and FFG Star Wars. Those two in particular l, really scratch my itch and I get fired up just thinking about them. [/QUOTE]

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