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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7166604" data-attributes="member: 996">I was really into Hero for a number of years.&nbsp; Hero vs GURPS could be pretty strident, and there were specific controversies over minutia like a limitation called Linked, but there weren't a lot of rev-roll crises, for a long time the game just got better, when it finally changed in a way I didn't like, I drifted away from the community.&nbsp; Same but more abrupt with oWoD, didn't take more than some reviews and a glance and I was gone. I was away from the D&amp;D community on UseNet, but the Role-not-Roll thing was huge on rec.games.frp.storyteller the one nonST game constantly targeted as the Rollplaying whipping boy was D&amp;D.&nbsp; And if the game has nothing left to offer you, you won't be there.&nbsp; Look at the 5e sub, there are those dissatisfied with it, but they do play and are looking for solutions, there are those who acknowledge issues going back and forth with apolglogists, but there's no one there I've noticed whose agenda is to destroy 5e, there's not the spite there was in the edition war.I think that's the normal state of affairs, that the edition war was just extreme. hmmm until 3.0, D&amp;D had changed little for 25years...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 7166604, member: 996"] I was really into Hero for a number of years. Hero vs GURPS could be pretty strident, and there were specific controversies over minutia like a limitation called Linked, but there weren't a lot of rev-roll crises, for a long time the game just got better, when it finally changed in a way I didn't like, I drifted away from the community. Same but more abrupt with oWoD, didn't take more than some reviews and a glance and I was gone. I was away from the D&D community on UseNet, but the Role-not-Roll thing was huge on rec.games.frp.storyteller the one nonST game constantly targeted as the Rollplaying whipping boy was D&D. And if the game has nothing left to offer you, you won't be there. Look at the 5e sub, there are those dissatisfied with it, but they do play and are looking for solutions, there are those who acknowledge issues going back and forth with apolglogists, but there's no one there I've noticed whose agenda is to destroy 5e, there's not the spite there was in the edition war. I think that's the normal state of affairs, that the edition war was just extreme. hmmm until 3.0, D&D had changed little for 25years... [/QUOTE]

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