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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jacob Lewis" data-source="post: 7166791" data-attributes="member: 6667921">Note to self: Do NOT post past your bedtime! You'll just wake up with a forum hangover. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/paranoid.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":uhoh:" title="Paranoid    :uhoh:" data-shortname=":uhoh:" />I did come out sounding defensive there, but there's a gap in my train of unfinished thoughts (see note to self above). I know Tony was not looking for justification on my part about how much effort I put in before forming an opinion. He just wanted to know which side of the screen I was sitting, and perhaps gauge if the other side would have offered a different impression. I started answering best that I could and began formulation the counter-arguments that would inevitably appear. Not necessarily from Mr. Vargas, but you know how these boards operate. But I stand by my statement: If a person comes to an opinion on their own terms, how he/she reaches those terms is not debatable. If I can point out one thing as an example without sparking an argument,I did not run a game for 5e. But I spent a great deal of time reading up and making preparations to do so in a way that I have done in every other edition. Playing and running the game for over 30 years affords me a lot of insight, and I see a lot of the things I did not like with earlier editions are back, like managing spell lists and the need to look up spell details all the time. That was something 4th Edition did away with over every other edition, and it was a strong selling point for me. The prospect of going back to this method was not appealing for me.Now I'm only using my own perspective as an example because it is relevant to me. But anyone else who offers an opinion should be looked upon no different. It is their experience and their opinion. That is cannot be disputed. What we can look at is how they present themselves, how they respond to others, and most importantly, are they open for a discussion. I can withstand all the scrutiny and displeasure for my own favorite edition because it is very different than all the others. I won't begrudge that, even if someone never even bothered to open a book. That just tells me they are not really open for a discussion, and probably not worth engaging on the topic. I don't need to win them over or convince them their opinion is wrong, it just won't carry much weight with me. And leave it at that.*sigh* I do wish I had more time to engage in this discussion as there is a lot more to say and posts I would like to respond to more directly. Until next time.</blockquote>

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