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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 7168058" data-attributes="member: 29398">Regarding the lack of a 4e OGL, the 3e OGL had led to two developments that can't have pleased WotC in their role as custodians of the game and as businesspeople:- in the early 3e years an awful lot of awful 3rd-party stuff came out, no threat to the business but not good for the at-the-time-rebounding game overall- in the later years some very good 3rd-party stuff came out and the business types saw the writing on the wall...they they went on to get clubbed upside the head by Pathfinder shows they read the signs right.And so they backed off from opening 4e up...and overdid that, resulting in what we have for 5e.That said, there was no such thing as an OGL before 3e, and in fact many years of the opposite: TSR trying to suppress fan sites and fan or 3rd-party productions etc. at every opporunity.&nbsp; Didn't stop me from evolving my 1e game into what I still play today, nor did it stop boatloads of others from doing likewise for their own groups and tables.Now, I suppose if your eventual intent is that your 4e evolutions reach a wider audience than your local group you're going to run up against it.&nbsp; But for your own table and group you can do what you like, just like what many of us did to 1e in the 1980's, and give yourself a better game.Lan-&quot;welcome to the kitbashers' union&quot;-efan</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 7168058, member: 29398"] Regarding the lack of a 4e OGL, the 3e OGL had led to two developments that can't have pleased WotC in their role as custodians of the game and as businesspeople: - in the early 3e years an awful lot of awful 3rd-party stuff came out, no threat to the business but not good for the at-the-time-rebounding game overall - in the later years some very good 3rd-party stuff came out and the business types saw the writing on the wall...they they went on to get clubbed upside the head by Pathfinder shows they read the signs right. And so they backed off from opening 4e up...and overdid that, resulting in what we have for 5e. That said, there was no such thing as an OGL before 3e, and in fact many years of the opposite: TSR trying to suppress fan sites and fan or 3rd-party productions etc. at every opporunity. Didn't stop me from evolving my 1e game into what I still play today, nor did it stop boatloads of others from doing likewise for their own groups and tables. Now, I suppose if your eventual intent is that your 4e evolutions reach a wider audience than your local group you're going to run up against it. But for your own table and group you can do what you like, just like what many of us did to 1e in the 1980's, and give yourself a better game. Lan-"welcome to the kitbashers' union"-efan [/QUOTE]

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