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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jbear" data-source="post: 5356371" data-attributes="member: 75065">Hehehe, too true! We'd look a bit strange with 4 ft long arms wouldn't we! I exagerated quite a bit. Let's say 7/8 ft could be farily easily reached on tip toes by most humans and the majority would be able to jump a foot or two more without much difficulty?I was kind of calculating the relative difficulty of the task for non-adventuring types and what I wanted to express was the opinion that most of us could probably get up a ten foot wall if we had to. Which would mean Easy DC. 20 ft is more challenging, but with help and rope, I don't think it would be much of an obstacle unless in the heat of battle and there was no chance to coordinate with the team.I'll also take this chance to say that when I said i'd be hurling abuse at the cleric if I had to haul him up a wall, well I meant my character. And it would be in fun.</blockquote>