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<blockquote data-quote="JPL" data-source="post: 2128029" data-attributes="member: 1964"><p>I have seen no evidence that Keith Baker lacks an understanding of noir. The moral ambiguity of Eberron, in particular, is noirish --- and certainly not characteristic of baseline D&D or "pulp" [in the Indiana Jones / high adventure sense of the term]. </p><p></p><p>Noir</p><p>1. Of or relating to the film noir genre.</p><p>2. Of or relating to a genre of crime literature featuring tough, cynical characters and bleak settings.</p><p>3. Suggestive of danger or violence.</p><p></p><p>Keith's first Eberron novel:</p><p></p><p>"Hardened by the Last War, four soldiers have come to Sharn, fabled City of Towers, capital of adventure, home to the best and worst that Eberron has to offer. After a lifetime of fighting, war is all they know. Now, in a time of uneasy peace, they must struggle to survive. </p><p></p><p>And then people start turning up dead. </p><p></p><p>Now the heroes find themselves in an adventure that will take them from the highest reaches of power to the most sordid depths of the city of wonder, shadow, and adventure."</p><p></p><p>Keith in an online chat about the novel:</p><p></p><p>"Daine is a sort of classic noir hero, in that he's an idealistic person who's lost everything -- he's a good person, but life has made him bitter."</p><p></p><p>Keith on Eberron:</p><p></p><p>"Or, if you're more interested in the noir end of things, fight greed and corruption in the darkest alleys of Sharn!" </p><p></p><p>From the Ask Keith Baker FAQ:</p><p></p><p>"Eberron is a world where we want people to strive to stay alive. Part of the noir tradition is that bad things can happen to good people, and the worst of these is death..." </p><p></p><p>Sounds noir to me.</p><p></p><p>I am compelled to defend Keith Baker at all times because it makes me feel better about my burning jealousy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JPL, post: 2128029, member: 1964"] I have seen no evidence that Keith Baker lacks an understanding of noir. The moral ambiguity of Eberron, in particular, is noirish --- and certainly not characteristic of baseline D&D or "pulp" [in the Indiana Jones / high adventure sense of the term]. Noir 1. Of or relating to the film noir genre. 2. Of or relating to a genre of crime literature featuring tough, cynical characters and bleak settings. 3. Suggestive of danger or violence. Keith's first Eberron novel: "Hardened by the Last War, four soldiers have come to Sharn, fabled City of Towers, capital of adventure, home to the best and worst that Eberron has to offer. After a lifetime of fighting, war is all they know. Now, in a time of uneasy peace, they must struggle to survive. And then people start turning up dead. Now the heroes find themselves in an adventure that will take them from the highest reaches of power to the most sordid depths of the city of wonder, shadow, and adventure." Keith in an online chat about the novel: "Daine is a sort of classic noir hero, in that he's an idealistic person who's lost everything -- he's a good person, but life has made him bitter." Keith on Eberron: "Or, if you're more interested in the noir end of things, fight greed and corruption in the darkest alleys of Sharn!" From the Ask Keith Baker FAQ: "Eberron is a world where we want people to strive to stay alive. Part of the noir tradition is that bad things can happen to good people, and the worst of these is death..." Sounds noir to me. I am compelled to defend Keith Baker at all times because it makes me feel better about my burning jealousy. [/QUOTE]
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