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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Telsar" data-source="post: 1736182" data-attributes="member: 18837">Serpenteye:  don't you hate rules disputes? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />  The problem, as I see it, all Large creatures (including enemies against normal sized PCs), as long as they can take a step back, would get one of the major benefits of the feat Improved Trip, and it could also apply to disarm and sunder, negating the need for Improved Disarm and Sunder, too.  That's just too much benefit just for being large, and I know normal size PCs would hate it if every intelligent large creature used those tactics, and of course, being intelligent, they would.The simplest solution is, those actions (trip, disarm, sunder) still provoke an AOO.  Another solution would be to say those maneuvers can't be used at range, even with reach.  I prefer the first one, just because it allows those with reach at range to still have the same options as normal size characters.Anyway, that's my ruling.  I can't give some of the benefit of three feats for free.  I did forget your Large and In Charge, although it didn't matter when handsome-guy ran up to you as you had already used your AOO on the tumbling robed guy.  And that's another problem with your plan... you only get one AOO per round without combat reflexes.  You can't AOO when he gets up, then do it again when he approaches.So... when I get a moment <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> , I'll resolve it with no trip, but with a step back and your LaiC feat might prevent him from reaching you (or at least from reaching, and attacking).  Although the robed guy is before him.  I'll assume you'd save you AOO to use on armed guy instead of robed-guy.Edit:  Grrrr... no, that's wrong too.  If he's 10' away (from you stepping back), he just needs a 5' step to attack, which doesn't provoke an AOO, so LaiC doesn't apply.  Robed guy probably didn't need a tumble or AOO from you either last round, being able to move 5' and attack.  *sigh*  Someday I'll figure out these rules, I know I will.  :\</blockquote>

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