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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Particle_Man" data-source="post: 4813852" data-attributes="member: 892">I don't wish to put a value term on either, but couldn't think of better words right now.For the purpose of discussion: "Pure" means you don't take any multi-class feats or weapon proficiency feats, nor any skill training feats for skills outside of your class list, nor armor proficiency feats (although you can take armor specialization feats for armor that your class already allows)."Mixed" would relax all of those restrictions.Now it seems likely that a "mixed" character will be more optimal than a "pure" character, simply by virtue of having more options.  I am curious as to whether the difference is pronounced enough to affect play.  Could one, for instance, play a "pure" Avenger without being a drag on the party, or does one need to get leather armor proficiency and/or fullblade proficiency and/or a multi-class feat and/or skill training in Insight, etc.?  Are some classes more greatly weakened if played "pure" than others?</blockquote>