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Purple Dragon Knight Retooled as Banneret in D&D's Heroes of Faerun Book
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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 9719935" data-attributes="member: 2067"><p>Good! The space of "knightly fighter who is a good battlefield commander and healer" is a pretty key D&D archetype that FR's Purple Dragon Knights have filled through multiple edition changes, and the 2014 model wasn't great. Looking forward to seeing it, and nervous that they're gonna do it dirty (we didn't get to see or playtest it, so I'm a little nervous).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I feel like "dragon mount" was always going to be a dicey proposition as a class feature.</p><p></p><p>Like, D&D can't do "<strong>horse </strong>mount" reliably as a class feature, and it's a game where the mounted knight is a pretty key archetype. The closest we get is paladins summoning steeds for free. I was working on a sort of Mongol steppe-archer archetype and, with the current ruleset, you're just better off leaving the horse outside the dungeon and being a regular archer when you're not out in the wilderness. Even in the best case scenario with a dragon mount, you get a nerfed version of the real thing that is necessarily a little underwhelming thanks to its power being paid for by a subclass's budget. And a lot of Familiar Syndrome kind of encounters ("Oh! I forgot about my friend and I don't really know their actions or initiative or...")</p><p></p><p>As a point of comparison, FR has a famous set of griffon-riders, for instance, and if you want to join that club and realize that archetype, there's not a PC option you can ever take that will give you a griffon. You gotta work with your DM, and go out and find one, and do the RP for it. Because advanced mounts isn't something 5e does well (because your power should never depend on something you can't take into a dungeon).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>WotC should try to do a dragon-rider Fighter, they just shouldn't call it a Purple Dragon Knight, because that's not the fun part of being a Purple Dragon Knight. If you think the existing lore is boring, then you definitely aren't in the target audience for it, and maybe there's a case that enough people think it's boring that a dragon-rider would be a better addition to the game than a battlefield leader, but then it should stand without using the Purple Dragon Knight as its name.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 9719935, member: 2067"] Good! The space of "knightly fighter who is a good battlefield commander and healer" is a pretty key D&D archetype that FR's Purple Dragon Knights have filled through multiple edition changes, and the 2014 model wasn't great. Looking forward to seeing it, and nervous that they're gonna do it dirty (we didn't get to see or playtest it, so I'm a little nervous). I feel like "dragon mount" was always going to be a dicey proposition as a class feature. Like, D&D can't do "[B]horse [/B]mount" reliably as a class feature, and it's a game where the mounted knight is a pretty key archetype. The closest we get is paladins summoning steeds for free. I was working on a sort of Mongol steppe-archer archetype and, with the current ruleset, you're just better off leaving the horse outside the dungeon and being a regular archer when you're not out in the wilderness. Even in the best case scenario with a dragon mount, you get a nerfed version of the real thing that is necessarily a little underwhelming thanks to its power being paid for by a subclass's budget. And a lot of Familiar Syndrome kind of encounters ("Oh! I forgot about my friend and I don't really know their actions or initiative or...") As a point of comparison, FR has a famous set of griffon-riders, for instance, and if you want to join that club and realize that archetype, there's not a PC option you can ever take that will give you a griffon. You gotta work with your DM, and go out and find one, and do the RP for it. Because advanced mounts isn't something 5e does well (because your power should never depend on something you can't take into a dungeon). WotC should try to do a dragon-rider Fighter, they just shouldn't call it a Purple Dragon Knight, because that's not the fun part of being a Purple Dragon Knight. If you think the existing lore is boring, then you definitely aren't in the target audience for it, and maybe there's a case that enough people think it's boring that a dragon-rider would be a better addition to the game than a battlefield leader, but then it should stand without using the Purple Dragon Knight as its name. [/QUOTE]
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