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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 9720572" data-attributes="member: 2067"><p>Yeah, it's not a great analogy. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p>Judging something based on how dumb or awesome its archetype might be is pretty shallow analysis. I could say it's (objectively?) awesome to ride dragons. It's also awesome to lead an army of allies into a desperate combat and inspire them to fight on in the face of overwhelming odds. When two potentially awesome things are competing for the same space, how do we evaluate which one should go in that space? One important dimension is the context it's coming into - which includes the lore that came before. It's part of what WotC needs to consider when designing for D&D (as, I think, the feedback for this subclass showed WotC). It is not an authority that must be slavishly obeyed, but it is part of the environment the design exists in. A pretty important part. </p><p></p><p>So, one valid reason that PDK's shouldn't ride purple dragons is because they haven't done it before. There are also other reasons ("it sounds like an idea cooked up by a marketer instead of a human being" is one of mine). There are also reasons why they should ride purple dragons, probably ("It's awesome to ride dragons" might be at the top of that list for me). </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The consistent and public rejection of that change in all the ways we can still matters. At the very least, it won't come as a surprise to WotC when no one plays with their lore, and if they want to continue to be good stewards of the game, maybe they'll consider future changes in light of this. If they're keeping the lore anyway, maybe it's more appropriate to think of these releases and surveys as marketing material rather than legitimate paths for impactful feedback. </p><p></p><p>It's still a net good that we're getting another shot at a support-oriented Fighter. That's an important and under-served archetype in 5e. And if they're keeping the lore, we haven't even really lost the other archetype - a PDK PC can still find and ride an amethyst dragon by playing the game and making friends with one. Also, any kind of PC can find and ride an any kind of dragon in the same way. You ride a dragon in the same way you ride a dire wolf or a griffon or a unicorn: you make friends with it. </p><p></p><p>And there's still room for a dragon-riding subclass in the future. </p><p></p><p>So I'm not super upset about WotC not being able to redefine the PDK in this way here and now.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 9720572, member: 2067"] Yeah, it's not a great analogy. :) Judging something based on how dumb or awesome its archetype might be is pretty shallow analysis. I could say it's (objectively?) awesome to ride dragons. It's also awesome to lead an army of allies into a desperate combat and inspire them to fight on in the face of overwhelming odds. When two potentially awesome things are competing for the same space, how do we evaluate which one should go in that space? One important dimension is the context it's coming into - which includes the lore that came before. It's part of what WotC needs to consider when designing for D&D (as, I think, the feedback for this subclass showed WotC). It is not an authority that must be slavishly obeyed, but it is part of the environment the design exists in. A pretty important part. So, one valid reason that PDK's shouldn't ride purple dragons is because they haven't done it before. There are also other reasons ("it sounds like an idea cooked up by a marketer instead of a human being" is one of mine). There are also reasons why they should ride purple dragons, probably ("It's awesome to ride dragons" might be at the top of that list for me). The consistent and public rejection of that change in all the ways we can still matters. At the very least, it won't come as a surprise to WotC when no one plays with their lore, and if they want to continue to be good stewards of the game, maybe they'll consider future changes in light of this. If they're keeping the lore anyway, maybe it's more appropriate to think of these releases and surveys as marketing material rather than legitimate paths for impactful feedback. It's still a net good that we're getting another shot at a support-oriented Fighter. That's an important and under-served archetype in 5e. And if they're keeping the lore, we haven't even really lost the other archetype - a PDK PC can still find and ride an amethyst dragon by playing the game and making friends with one. Also, any kind of PC can find and ride an any kind of dragon in the same way. You ride a dragon in the same way you ride a dire wolf or a griffon or a unicorn: you make friends with it. And there's still room for a dragon-riding subclass in the future. So I'm not super upset about WotC not being able to redefine the PDK in this way here and now. [/QUOTE]
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