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<blockquote data-quote="doctorhook" data-source="post: 9720576" data-attributes="member: 58401"><p>No one is suggesting D&D shouldn’t have the possibility for knights to ride dragons. (Although there’s a whole other setting about that, it’s called Dragonlance, you may have heard of it.)</p><p></p><p>Whereas the practice of dragon-riding hasn’t been common in FR nor most other D&D settings because it kind of changes the nature of dragons in those settings, from superintelligent beings into draft animals. There are power assumptions inherent in dragon-riding in these game that have been seen as problematic for 45 years already.</p><p></p><p>None of this is my primary objection to PDKs riding amethyst dragons.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It’s only misleading because, per your own admission, you don’t know and don’t care to learn why this group is called the “Purple Dragon Knights”. You’re giving “french fries come from France” energy here.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>See above, re: “Downton Abbey bikini babes on motorcycles”. Your version of “new and interesting” is absolutely bastardizing to anyone invested in the existing setting, you just don’t see it because you admittedly don’t care at all about the existing setting.</p><p></p><p>Maybe I think your kitchen would be a lot more “new and interesting” with a giant hole in the floor in front of the refrigerator. I don’t care about your kitchen, but that would be super interesting to me! Surely you’d love a new and interesting pit in your kitchen floor, wouldn’t you? No? Oh, because you care about your kitchen? But I don’t care about your kitchen, so I think you kitchen is a perfectly fine place to put a new and interesting hole. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>New developments do NOT automatically disrespect previous lore. But PDKs all riding around on their pet amethyst dragons certainly does! Like, why are PDKs all riding these dragons when previously they never did? And why are amethyst dragons (rare in FR, even compared to other dragons!) apparently all subservient to the PDK organization now?</p><p></p><p>People objected to this change because it’s nonsensical, not because it’s implausible. Just like motorcycles and women’s swimwear existed in Edwardian Britain, it would still be nonsensical to make bikini babes on motorcycles a major focus of Downton Abbey. Thankfully, WotC acknowledged their own mistake.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Cool, I guess it’s a majority vote then? That your cohort already lost because WotC scuttled the UA lore?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If so, whatever. Wouldn’t be the first time that art direction was more about looking cool than making sense.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They’re more commonly called “deep dragons” but yes they have a long history in FR. You’d know this if you cared enough to learn about FR before saying that the setting needs to be changed to become more “new and interesting”.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="doctorhook, post: 9720576, member: 58401"] No one is suggesting D&D shouldn’t have the possibility for knights to ride dragons. (Although there’s a whole other setting about that, it’s called Dragonlance, you may have heard of it.) Whereas the practice of dragon-riding hasn’t been common in FR nor most other D&D settings because it kind of changes the nature of dragons in those settings, from superintelligent beings into draft animals. There are power assumptions inherent in dragon-riding in these game that have been seen as problematic for 45 years already. None of this is my primary objection to PDKs riding amethyst dragons. It’s only misleading because, per your own admission, you don’t know and don’t care to learn why this group is called the “Purple Dragon Knights”. You’re giving “french fries come from France” energy here. See above, re: “Downton Abbey bikini babes on motorcycles”. Your version of “new and interesting” is absolutely bastardizing to anyone invested in the existing setting, you just don’t see it because you admittedly don’t care at all about the existing setting. Maybe I think your kitchen would be a lot more “new and interesting” with a giant hole in the floor in front of the refrigerator. I don’t care about your kitchen, but that would be super interesting to me! Surely you’d love a new and interesting pit in your kitchen floor, wouldn’t you? No? Oh, because you care about your kitchen? But I don’t care about your kitchen, so I think you kitchen is a perfectly fine place to put a new and interesting hole. New developments do NOT automatically disrespect previous lore. But PDKs all riding around on their pet amethyst dragons certainly does! Like, why are PDKs all riding these dragons when previously they never did? And why are amethyst dragons (rare in FR, even compared to other dragons!) apparently all subservient to the PDK organization now? People objected to this change because it’s nonsensical, not because it’s implausible. Just like motorcycles and women’s swimwear existed in Edwardian Britain, it would still be nonsensical to make bikini babes on motorcycles a major focus of Downton Abbey. Thankfully, WotC acknowledged their own mistake. Cool, I guess it’s a majority vote then? That your cohort already lost because WotC scuttled the UA lore? If so, whatever. Wouldn’t be the first time that art direction was more about looking cool than making sense. They’re more commonly called “deep dragons” but yes they have a long history in FR. You’d know this if you cared enough to learn about FR before saying that the setting needs to be changed to become more “new and interesting”. [/QUOTE]
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