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Purple Dragon Knight Retooled as Banneret in D&D's Heroes of Faerun Book
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<blockquote data-quote="Benjamin Olson" data-source="post: 9721031" data-attributes="member: 6988941"><p>I guess I care more about the default setting being straightforward and accessible than being deep and meaningful, or not "juvenile" (whatever that means for this elf game that I've often played with literal children).</p><p></p><p>Once again, to me the whole appeal of the Forgotten Realms is that it is a setting that's cosmopolitan enough to accommodate basically any character option or any monster, which has giant piles of lore easily accessible, which everyone is slightly familiar with, <em>but</em> which, critically, nobody I play with is invested enough in the lore of to care if we change up many or most things to suit our needs or whims. If I wanted lore I care about I'd use my own setting, but then I'd have to either tell players "no" or accept the lore consequences when they wanted to play a cat person in a psyonic subclass. The Forgotten Realms just says yes to everything, and has the sort of lore that comes from that. I don't particularly respect it's lore "vision", but that's part of what makes it useful.</p><p></p><p>I get that someone's going to be invested in any setting, it just seems a little silly when its a setting that every new non-setting specific bit of content just gets thrown into willy nilly and which has clearly been substantially reinterpreted over the decades to suit changes of edition and such. There has not really been a grand coherent vision for Faerun for a long, long time, and honestly when WotC tries to have some big event ongoing that produces the worst content; I really hate when a published adventure derails the flow to feature something that is just there to be a cool moment for people who played some other published adventure or read some novel (without even the courtesy of a DM note that that's why its there and here's how to skip it if it's not relevant to your group).</p><p></p><p>In any case as someone who loves the Forgotten Realms because I <em>don't</em> have to care about its lore it's odd to encounter people who love it because they do. Makes me feel like it's time to get a new generic fantasy setting as the default for those of us who just want to roll dice and not have to make up every bit of lore on the fly, and maybe the Forgotten Realms can be preserved as it is for you lore-curating afficianados.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Benjamin Olson, post: 9721031, member: 6988941"] I guess I care more about the default setting being straightforward and accessible than being deep and meaningful, or not "juvenile" (whatever that means for this elf game that I've often played with literal children). Once again, to me the whole appeal of the Forgotten Realms is that it is a setting that's cosmopolitan enough to accommodate basically any character option or any monster, which has giant piles of lore easily accessible, which everyone is slightly familiar with, [I]but[/I] which, critically, nobody I play with is invested enough in the lore of to care if we change up many or most things to suit our needs or whims. If I wanted lore I care about I'd use my own setting, but then I'd have to either tell players "no" or accept the lore consequences when they wanted to play a cat person in a psyonic subclass. The Forgotten Realms just says yes to everything, and has the sort of lore that comes from that. I don't particularly respect it's lore "vision", but that's part of what makes it useful. I get that someone's going to be invested in any setting, it just seems a little silly when its a setting that every new non-setting specific bit of content just gets thrown into willy nilly and which has clearly been substantially reinterpreted over the decades to suit changes of edition and such. There has not really been a grand coherent vision for Faerun for a long, long time, and honestly when WotC tries to have some big event ongoing that produces the worst content; I really hate when a published adventure derails the flow to feature something that is just there to be a cool moment for people who played some other published adventure or read some novel (without even the courtesy of a DM note that that's why its there and here's how to skip it if it's not relevant to your group). In any case as someone who loves the Forgotten Realms because I [I]don't[/I] have to care about its lore it's odd to encounter people who love it because they do. Makes me feel like it's time to get a new generic fantasy setting as the default for those of us who just want to roll dice and not have to make up every bit of lore on the fly, and maybe the Forgotten Realms can be preserved as it is for you lore-curating afficianados. [/QUOTE]
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