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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 6748997" data-attributes="member: 48965">I'm sorry you lost me at the first sentence...Earlier I was referring to the fact that you stated you didn't want to play (as opposed to run) 5e because none of the current classes interested you and if they brought the warlord you wanted into 5e then maybe you would play...  I guess that all the warlord fans that now play 5e could take it to that extreme (not playing without the specific warlord they want) but somehow I doubt that's actually the case.  From various threads on this site we've seen that some warlord fans are perfectly happy with options that are currently out, including those in SCAG... now what exactly are you referring to as far as my "edition warring" goes?  Or is it that unless I get behind the desire to have the same "warlord" as you I must be edition warring... because that seems like a pretty common picture you try to paint on other posters...over and over and over again.  As for the rest... yes, yes... I have heard your reasoning for why there not being a warlord is an afront to current/former (not exactly sure which group you're speaking for) 4e players all over the world and you know... I find that argument as unconvincing as I did the first time I read it.No 5e plays perfectly fine without a warlord class...and 5e doesn't have to mechanically cater to each and every play style, that's what house ruling is for... 5e needs to reach as many fans of D&D as possible and be easily house-ruled for those playstyles it doesn't cover out of the box(and so far there's no evidence it hasn't succeeded in this).   The warlord class being in 5e or not isn't, as you so often try to paint it, an edition war thing...  It's a disagreement of preferences that are much more varied than 4e vs. all other editions.  Things like what a mundane warrior in one person's game vs. another's should be able to accomplish... whether the archetype is a true archetype in and of itself or something nearly every hero does in genre... what does or doesn't break thresholds of what is believable in some games vs. others and so on.  It's about play style and what the baseline conceits of the game should be...  but you keep re-kindling and stoking those edition war coals and maybe you'll get the fire you're looking for.Well you keep working on that and I'll continue enjoying my 5e... that works perfectly fine (even for low/no magic games since I can house rule 5e pretty easily if need be.) for me.  Have fun.</blockquote>

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