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Message: <blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 6753779" data-attributes="member: 2067">Sure they are. Advantage on attack rolls and disadvantage on enemy's attack rolls is pretty much the job that buffers and debuffers would have to do, and those actions do it. I'm certainly not saying the options aren't limited.I'm just saying they're sufficient. That's a different standard.They'd be as fine as any other party. AC 16 or 18 vs. +4 attack bonus keeps most of the attacks missing (more, if one or two of 'em are Protection-style or Defense-style, or if anyone decides not to attack and instead takes the Dodge action), they'll take ~3 hits to down each (depending on CON), so, like, if 4 kobolds go in a row and before all the PC's and concentrate all their firepower, they might make one unconscious in that fight. But the battle is won handily once the first kobold or two drops, which typically happens as soon as any PC gets a turn. It's a very challenging first combat, but it's not a TPK for a Champion party any more than it is for any other party (heck, a party with more spellcasters would go down faster thanks to lower HP and AC). I've got HotDQ and a desire to run this now. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>