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<blockquote data-quote="Sadras" data-source="post: 6758838" data-attributes="member: 6688277"><p>I personally agree with this, perhaps because I am a fan of 2e, but more so because the system is not as heavy as 3.5e, and not as fixed/complete as 4e.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't believe you are being punished. 5e is meant to be all inclusive. Was I thrilled about the inclusion of Tieflings and Dragonborn? No, I admit I'm more of a traditionalist. Personally I would have preferred they create the Warlord class/subclass instead of including those two races. Not everyone is 100% satisfied, but the options are there for all of us to include and exclude what we like. </p><p></p><p>Those that prefer the 2e Tiefling can and will change.</p><p>Those that prefer no +x weapons/armour will remove them.</p><p>Those that prefer no Ability Boosts or Feats may remove them.</p><p>Those that prefer a Battlemaster with an Aura or Healing can do so. </p><p>Those that prefer save or suck for some monsters (yellow mold thread) can include them.</p><p></p><p>But I think you take it too far - Just listen to your language, speaking of punishment / blackmailing / edition wars / 5e = H4ter Edition...etc</p><p></p><p>WotC did an amazing job, the tools are very much there for many of us. Is it perfect for the die-hard 4e players? Not by a long shot. Those that love 4e will stick to 4e. But they certainly paid a nod towards that edition and I'm talking from experience, not as some 4e-hater. I played and DMed 4e. </p><p> </p><p>I wouldn't mind the Warlord as a class/sublclass - whatever, it doesn't bother me. We would certainly allow the class at our table, more so than the monk which is perma-ban. But to spew edition-venom doesn't strengthen your case, it just makes me wonder when will such a person be satisfied with WotC's 4e contribution to 5e.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sadras, post: 6758838, member: 6688277"] I personally agree with this, perhaps because I am a fan of 2e, but more so because the system is not as heavy as 3.5e, and not as fixed/complete as 4e. I don't believe you are being punished. 5e is meant to be all inclusive. Was I thrilled about the inclusion of Tieflings and Dragonborn? No, I admit I'm more of a traditionalist. Personally I would have preferred they create the Warlord class/subclass instead of including those two races. Not everyone is 100% satisfied, but the options are there for all of us to include and exclude what we like. Those that prefer the 2e Tiefling can and will change. Those that prefer no +x weapons/armour will remove them. Those that prefer no Ability Boosts or Feats may remove them. Those that prefer a Battlemaster with an Aura or Healing can do so. Those that prefer save or suck for some monsters (yellow mold thread) can include them. But I think you take it too far - Just listen to your language, speaking of punishment / blackmailing / edition wars / 5e = H4ter Edition...etc WotC did an amazing job, the tools are very much there for many of us. Is it perfect for the die-hard 4e players? Not by a long shot. Those that love 4e will stick to 4e. But they certainly paid a nod towards that edition and I'm talking from experience, not as some 4e-hater. I played and DMed 4e. I wouldn't mind the Warlord as a class/sublclass - whatever, it doesn't bother me. We would certainly allow the class at our table, more so than the monk which is perma-ban. But to spew edition-venom doesn't strengthen your case, it just makes me wonder when will such a person be satisfied with WotC's 4e contribution to 5e. [/QUOTE]
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