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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6759098" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>It seems fans of a given edition see more of what 5e has for other editions while taking the things it includes from theirs for granted if not overlooking them entirely. You're doubly in luck for preferring the ed that 5e treats as a sort of first among equals, and in being able to see & appreciate it rather than deny it and obsess over this or that fragment of some other edition.</p><p></p><p>I not ready to accept that is the intent, yet. But, that's the implication of "will including the warlord bring back fans of 4e" - that if I'm not willing to withhold support for the new edition (and can't get a big enough boycott going) until they've carried through with their promise of inclusion, I don't deserve to be included. I'm cynical enough to see that, but I'm choosing not to go there. </p><p></p><p>It is meant to be, but it's not nearly there yet, I'm trying to remain positive in the hope that it will be. But, there are posters here who seem intent on preventing that, and that's the impetus for some of these conversations.</p><p></p><p>Not all the options needed, not yet... </p><p></p><p>I do consider the language I'm using. I think it's sadly necessary language at the moment. I look forward to the day when it won't be.</p><p></p><p>I still think you misunderstand that side of the fandom. Fans of 4e were, for the most part, just fans of D&D embracing the latest edition (some others were entirely new to the hobby, of course). Most of us also embrace 5e. Some would just like to see 5e rise to the level it aimed for, and one place it's falling short of that mark is in failing to support things that you could do for the first time with 4e. </p><p></p><p>Why then, do you feel the need to badger me for wanting the Warlord? Why not support it in that spirit of inclusion?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 6759098, member: 996"] It seems fans of a given edition see more of what 5e has for other editions while taking the things it includes from theirs for granted if not overlooking them entirely. You're doubly in luck for preferring the ed that 5e treats as a sort of first among equals, and in being able to see & appreciate it rather than deny it and obsess over this or that fragment of some other edition. I not ready to accept that is the intent, yet. But, that's the implication of "will including the warlord bring back fans of 4e" - that if I'm not willing to withhold support for the new edition (and can't get a big enough boycott going) until they've carried through with their promise of inclusion, I don't deserve to be included. I'm cynical enough to see that, but I'm choosing not to go there. It is meant to be, but it's not nearly there yet, I'm trying to remain positive in the hope that it will be. But, there are posters here who seem intent on preventing that, and that's the impetus for some of these conversations. Not all the options needed, not yet... I do consider the language I'm using. I think it's sadly necessary language at the moment. I look forward to the day when it won't be. I still think you misunderstand that side of the fandom. Fans of 4e were, for the most part, just fans of D&D embracing the latest edition (some others were entirely new to the hobby, of course). Most of us also embrace 5e. Some would just like to see 5e rise to the level it aimed for, and one place it's falling short of that mark is in failing to support things that you could do for the first time with 4e. Why then, do you feel the need to badger me for wanting the Warlord? Why not support it in that spirit of inclusion? [/QUOTE]
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