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<blockquote data-quote="MoutonRustique" data-source="post: 6423614" data-attributes="member: 22362">Yeah, I'm with the majority on this one. While I don't know your PCs, a regular group would not find a single Umber Hulk all that much of a threat...I suggest you solo-itise it and add-in a couple of &quot;inconveniences&quot; for the players : strangling vines, exploding thorn bushes, poisonous spore releasing blubs. Nothing much, just to eat one or two PCs' actions for a round or two.Also, I suggest making it so that the PCs are doing damage to it - but have it so that the &quot;saving&quot; comes when it bloodies (or the round after). Something like :- PCs beat on it for a little while taking MASSIVE damage (a cool &quot;trick&quot; is to have the monster have a huge push effect - it makes a convenient excuse to hit on a different target)- the PCs manage to bloody it, but they've been hit so hard, that they are grateful when something else comes in and deals with the monster.Things I would do to &quot;choreograph&quot; something like this :- have the monster have a massive push on his main attack- have hindering terrain that &quot;jams&quot; a player pushed into it for a round- have the monster deal a good deal of damage even on a miss (or another form of auto-damage)- have PCs hit PCs (confusion eye-thing of the umber hulk is perfect for this)- have the monster have a very impressive &quot;on bloodied&quot; effect- very, very high damage attacks- some form of protection from ranged attacks (cover, concealment, special ability, something)- not to high defenses (nothing more anti-heroic than : you miss! (again...))- fairly low mobility (you want the PCs to feel like they could retreat)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MoutonRustique, post: 6423614, member: 22362"] Yeah, I'm with the majority on this one. While I don't know your PCs, a regular group would not find a single Umber Hulk all that much of a threat... I suggest you solo-itise it and add-in a couple of "inconveniences" for the players : strangling vines, exploding thorn bushes, poisonous spore releasing blubs. Nothing much, just to eat one or two PCs' actions for a round or two. Also, I suggest making it so that the PCs [I]are[/I] doing damage to it - but have it so that the "saving" comes when it bloodies (or the round after). Something like : - PCs beat on it for a little while taking MASSIVE damage (a cool "trick" is to have the monster have a huge push effect - it makes a convenient excuse to hit on a different target) - the PCs manage to bloody it, but they've been hit so hard, that they are grateful when something else comes in and deals with the monster. Things I would do to "choreograph" something like this : - have the monster have a massive push on his main attack - have hindering terrain that "jams" a player pushed into it for a round - have the monster deal a good deal of damage even on a miss (or another form of auto-damage) - have PCs hit PCs (confusion eye-thing of the umber hulk is perfect for this) - have the monster have a very impressive "on bloodied" effect - very, very high damage attacks - some form of protection from ranged attacks (cover, concealment, special ability, something) - not to high defenses (nothing more anti-heroic than : you miss! (again...)) - fairly low mobility (you want the PCs to feel like they could retreat) [/QUOTE]

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