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<blockquote data-quote="Chzbro" data-source="post: 5532303" data-attributes="member: 83964">Revisiting this topic due to an in-game discussion about it today.It might be nitpicking, but I'm not sure I agree with the sentiment that RAW states, &quot;You can be forced through your allies, but not through enemies.&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp;The rule says &quot;Forced movement can’t move a target into a space it couldn’t enter by&nbsp; walking. The target can’t be forced into an obstacle or made to squeeze&nbsp; into a space.&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp;That's two things that forced&nbsp; movement CAN'T do; that does not necessarily mean that the opposite can&nbsp; be done, though. Saying &quot;a man can't be a cat&quot; doesn't automatically&nbsp; mean &quot;a man CAN be a dog.&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp;Movement is resolved 1 square at a&nbsp; time. The moment you are passing through an ally's square you are&nbsp; squeezing into a space with that ally; the rules normally allow this,&nbsp; but the 2nd part of the above rule seems to say that it's not allowed&nbsp; for forced movement. The target can't be &quot;made to squeeze into a space,&quot;&nbsp; so he can't be made to move through an ally which (for 1 square) would&nbsp; cause him to squeeze into a space with that ally. (Two medium creatures&nbsp; forced to occupy the same 5 ft sq would be squeezing right?) Also, since&nbsp; there are powers that allow you to push, pull, or slide through or into&nbsp; enemies, doesn't that suggest that you can't do that normally without&nbsp; such a power?&nbsp;&nbsp;My opinion is that, by RAW, you can't force movement through the squares of enemies OR allies unless the power says you can. Seems like it just causes less headaches that way.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Chzbro, post: 5532303, member: 83964"] Revisiting this topic due to an in-game discussion about it today. It might be nitpicking, but I'm not sure I agree with the sentiment that RAW states, "You can be forced through your allies, but not through enemies." The rule says "Forced movement can’t move a target into a space it couldn’t enter by walking. The target can’t be forced into an obstacle or made to squeeze into a space." That's two things that forced movement CAN'T do; that does not necessarily mean that the opposite can be done, though. Saying "a man can't be a cat" doesn't automatically mean "a man CAN be a dog." Movement is resolved 1 square at a time. The moment you are passing through an ally's square you are squeezing into a space with that ally; the rules normally allow this, but the 2nd part of the above rule seems to say that it's not allowed for forced movement. The target can't be "made to squeeze into a space," so he can't be made to move through an ally which (for 1 square) would cause him to squeeze into a space with that ally. (Two medium creatures forced to occupy the same 5 ft sq would be squeezing right?) Also, since there are powers that allow you to push, pull, or slide through or into enemies, doesn't that suggest that you can't do that normally without such a power? My opinion is that, by RAW, you can't force movement through the squares of enemies OR allies unless the power says you can. Seems like it just causes less headaches that way. [/QUOTE]

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