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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 4478915" data-attributes="member: 1656">The terrain rules tell the DM how to handle hindering terrrain, once he has determined that this square is, in fact, hindering terrain.It can't be labelled hindering terrain based solely on whether or not it has some properties hindering terrain has, just as an animal can't be labelled a dog based solely on whether or not it has some properties dogs have.You can label something not a dog based solely on the absence of certain properties, and you can label something not hindering terrain likewise.  If we know that a square does not block (or severely punish) movement, and does not damage creatures entering it, we know it is not hindering terrain.  But a square can block movement without being hindering terrain - the presence of one of those qualities is not, by itself, enough to guarantee the keyword.No, I didn't.If we have a statement that "Golden Retrievers have golden fur", what tells us whether this is an == label, or just description?If a monster has a power that conjures an animal with golden fur, is that statement sufficient to tell us the animal is a Golden Retriever?  If the DM decides it is a Golden Retriever, it can be - the description we have (animal with golden fur) doesn't prohibit it.  But the description isn't sufficient to nail that down.Is it not both?Tell the creature to stop asking about weird statistical anomalies, and the problem goes away.-Hyp.</blockquote>

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