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Q&A 10/17/13 - Crits, Damage on Miss, Wildshape
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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6210518" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>No. I'm saying that:</p><p></p><p>a) Some creatures in D&D have the quality of being immune to fatigue.</p><p>b) We can postulate that such a creature is the target of the combat, and we can imagine that the color of immunity of fatigue is something logical for many creatures.</p><p>c) Thus, the creature cannot be worn down by the fatiguing effects of spending just a few seconds dodging blows or indeed any amount of time doing so. I've suggested the creature is immortal to suggest this is infinite immunity to fatigue.</p><p>d) Thus, if we are to say that the creature is being worn down, it must be do to something else - such as wounds.</p><p>e) But, if we postulate that the creature immune to fatigue has no armor bonus nor any other bonus that reflects the difficulty to do a damaging blow to the target, and all of its AC is the result of dodge bonuses, small size, and other bonuses that reflect the difficulty to hit the target, then there is no mechanism for doing damage to this target on a miss.</p><p></p><p>I created this scenario not because I'm worried only about the case of 100% immunity to damage on a miss, but of any degree of partial immunity to 'damage on a miss' because the color of the target indicates 'hard to hit - say the PC halfling rogue whose sole source of AC is dexterity and small size who is being attacked by a great sword fighter. It doesn't make sense for the Halfling to be damaged on a miss either.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 6210518, member: 4937"] No. I'm saying that: a) Some creatures in D&D have the quality of being immune to fatigue. b) We can postulate that such a creature is the target of the combat, and we can imagine that the color of immunity of fatigue is something logical for many creatures. c) Thus, the creature cannot be worn down by the fatiguing effects of spending just a few seconds dodging blows or indeed any amount of time doing so. I've suggested the creature is immortal to suggest this is infinite immunity to fatigue. d) Thus, if we are to say that the creature is being worn down, it must be do to something else - such as wounds. e) But, if we postulate that the creature immune to fatigue has no armor bonus nor any other bonus that reflects the difficulty to do a damaging blow to the target, and all of its AC is the result of dodge bonuses, small size, and other bonuses that reflect the difficulty to hit the target, then there is no mechanism for doing damage to this target on a miss. I created this scenario not because I'm worried only about the case of 100% immunity to damage on a miss, but of any degree of partial immunity to 'damage on a miss' because the color of the target indicates 'hard to hit - say the PC halfling rogue whose sole source of AC is dexterity and small size who is being attacked by a great sword fighter. It doesn't make sense for the Halfling to be damaged on a miss either. [/QUOTE]
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