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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Blackbrrd" data-source="post: 6130376" data-attributes="member: 63962">Now (not having bothered with actually reading the rules) what if the Fighting Style, Speciality, Subclass and background are seens as multiple layers that portray your character? Like the above example you can have a bunch of classes help tell the story of your character. I do see background of something that's a bit in the past, while subclass is where you want your character to go. I am not sure if that's how it will pan out though.I do like the 3e idea of prestige classes where you add on complexity as you go and where the rules quite clearly state that you for instance have to enter a knighthood to gain the prestige class. For some games this will be what your character is centered around, while others ignore the rule and just let you pick whatever classes you want without looking at role-playing requirements.Btw, we aren't necessarily disagreeing here, I am just coming with another point of view. I did read the background/speciality stuff a few months back and at the time it just felt like a kludge. Awkward, boring and complex at the same time while achieving little of what I wanted when I sat down to create a character.</blockquote>