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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MoonSong" data-source="post: 6199605" data-attributes="member: 6689464">I doubt a new player would put a wisdom penalty on her cleric if the rules specifically  say Wisdom is the most important score for clerics. (You know just like in the phbs of third and fourth edition)Also did you ever found a new player that built a wisdom 9 or lower cleric on 3.x? Don't we have advice on the phb and the help from the DM and fellow table mates to prevent absolute noobs from gimping themselves from the get go? Why take the next step and ban underpowered characters or combos? Simple advice works, why do you want to force players with enough experience to explicitly call for special treatment in order to go for unusual combos that look underpowered but are viable even despite being restricted? Protecting players from themselves isn't good in my opinion, and let me tell you something, you could be an insane healer cleric on 4e while dumping Wisdom, and in the current package you still can even with a Wisdom of 3, so that criteria doesn't quite fit in here. There is no need to protect the players from being weak when there isn't any weakness to begin with, and restricting multiclassing combos because they are "suboptimal" or because they don't match with the designers prejudices and the only explanation for it we get is a "but we are restricting level dips this way"(I have already showed you can optimize scores for maximum level dips) or "we want characters to still be synergistic" (If a wisdom 3 cleric is viable then any kind of N-class x/cleric y will be)</blockquote>

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