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<blockquote data-quote="Lokishadow" data-source="post: 2172534" data-attributes="member: 19090">Okay, so maybe this is the wrong forum.&nbsp; But let me explain.I have had a long love affair with D&amp;D; 20 years, to be exact.&nbsp; And then one day...A friend introduced me to (gasp!) White Wolf.I love the flexibility of WW.&nbsp; It's a great, almost realistic, system.&nbsp; It allows for some truly epic fights, and an incredible amount of character flexibility.&nbsp; And yet, I still love D&amp;D.&nbsp; d20 is probably the greatest thing to happen to D&amp;D to date.&nbsp; But I have this nagging problem of trying to stike a balance between realism and fun-factor.&nbsp; Get shot in the head (playing a mortal) in WW, and your character is dead.&nbsp; But shoot the uber-badguy in the head in d20, and he takes 2d8+4 damage, averaging out to 13 points off of his 96hp total.&nbsp; Basically, the problem boils down to numbers, and a little into game concept.&nbsp; In WW, if your character isn't something supernatural (a vampire, werewolf, etc) your survivability goes straight down the tubes.&nbsp; Even a simple fight with the villian's flunkies can end in character death, with only a slightly smaller probability of said death than fighting the actual &quot;boss.&quot;&nbsp; But in d20, you can pull some uber-kewl&nbsp; 1,000 yard .50-cal head shot on the &quot;boss,&quot; and he'll take, what, 27 points of damage?&nbsp; And then there's what I call the &quot;level divide.&quot;&nbsp; Enemies of significantly lower level than you are &quot;extras,&quot; and get mowed down by the dozens.&nbsp; But try to tackle that red dragon 5 levels early and you need a new character.&nbsp; But in WW, so-called &quot;extras&quot; pose entirely too much of a threat to the PC's.&nbsp; So, where's the balance point?&nbsp; What do I do?&nbsp; Escalating skill ranks in a level system make the impossible routine, but basic accoutrements in WW make flunkies a serious threat.&nbsp; Help?-Loki</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lokishadow, post: 2172534, member: 19090"] Okay, so maybe this is the wrong forum. But let me explain. I have had a long love affair with D&D; 20 years, to be exact. And then one day... A friend introduced me to (gasp!) White Wolf. I love the flexibility of WW. It's a great, almost realistic, system. It allows for some truly epic fights, and an incredible amount of character flexibility. And yet, I still love D&D. d20 is probably the greatest thing to happen to D&D to date. But I have this nagging problem of trying to stike a balance between realism and fun-factor. Get shot in the head (playing a mortal) in WW, and your character is dead. But shoot the uber-badguy in the head in d20, and he takes 2d8+4 damage, averaging out to 13 points off of his 96hp total. Basically, the problem boils down to numbers, and a little into game concept. In WW, if your character isn't something supernatural (a vampire, werewolf, etc) your survivability goes straight down the tubes. Even a simple fight with the villian's flunkies can end in character death, with only a slightly smaller probability of said death than fighting the actual "boss." But in d20, you can pull some uber-kewl 1,000 yard .50-cal head shot on the "boss," and he'll take, what, 27 points of damage? And then there's what I call the "level divide." Enemies of significantly lower level than you are "extras," and get mowed down by the dozens. But try to tackle that red dragon 5 levels early and you need a new character. But in WW, so-called "extras" pose entirely too much of a threat to the PC's. So, where's the balance point? What do I do? Escalating skill ranks in a level system make the impossible routine, but basic accoutrements in WW make flunkies a serious threat. Help? -Loki [/QUOTE]

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