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<blockquote data-quote="Dryden" data-source="post: 118474" data-attributes="member: 1168">I would like to precursor this response with the note that i do not have Q. Rogue, nor have i looked through it yet.&nbsp; This comment is based solely on the comments above, as well as the only Mongoose book i have, Chaos Magic.I believe that the objection to be had is not any sort of equation between Women and Sex, or even the idea that nipples exist on women.&nbsp; We're all naked.&nbsp; Right now.&nbsp; Underneath our clothes we're all naked as a jay bird.&nbsp; Nudity and sex are indeed part of the every day life of most people, that is not in question or under persecution.The reason i object to art such as what i understand is in Q. Rogue and in Chaos Magic is because it is sexist.&nbsp; Not explicit, just sexist.&nbsp; For example, in Chaos Magic there are 25 human forms easily seen (plus one that's mostly tree shaped, and two purely head shots).&nbsp; Out of these 25 there are 9 Female, 15 Male, and 1 Indeterminate forms.&nbsp; Of those 9 female, there are 3 whom my girlfriend and myself both consider to be wearing realistic clothing (to quote her, &quot;I would not wear a thong to fight evil&quot;).&nbsp; Out of the 15 Male forms, only one was questionable but none were really unrealistic in their dress.&nbsp; The questionable one is on Pg. 28, btw, to which the response was that it was reasonable, as &quot;His *** is covered for one thing&quot;.&nbsp; He was only questionable as 50% of his body was uncovered, whereas all the other male figures were at least 80% covered (imho).&nbsp; The indeterminate one was fully covered.I don't feel i need to say any more.&nbsp; The point truly has nothing to do with nipples or nudity, the point has everything to do with objectifying women and sexist practices in fantasy art.&nbsp; It's a trend i'm ashamed of, up down left and right and wish to change, but for now i'll just try to educate.DrydenFinal quote from girlfriend: &quot;They would never think of drawing men with their ***es hanging out all over the place&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dryden, post: 118474, member: 1168"] I would like to precursor this response with the note that i do not have Q. Rogue, nor have i looked through it yet. This comment is based solely on the comments above, as well as the only Mongoose book i have, Chaos Magic. I believe that the objection to be had is not any sort of equation between Women and Sex, or even the idea that nipples exist on women. We're all naked. Right now. Underneath our clothes we're all naked as a jay bird. Nudity and sex are indeed part of the every day life of most people, that is not in question or under persecution. The reason i object to art such as what i understand is in Q. Rogue and in Chaos Magic is because it is sexist. Not explicit, just sexist. For example, in Chaos Magic there are 25 human forms easily seen (plus one that's mostly tree shaped, and two purely head shots). Out of these 25 there are 9 Female, 15 Male, and 1 Indeterminate forms. Of those 9 female, there are 3 whom my girlfriend and myself both consider to be wearing realistic clothing (to quote her, "I would not wear a thong to fight evil"). Out of the 15 Male forms, only one was questionable but none were really unrealistic in their dress. The questionable one is on Pg. 28, btw, to which the response was that it was reasonable, as "His *** is covered for one thing". He was only questionable as 50% of his body was uncovered, whereas all the other male figures were at least 80% covered (imho). The indeterminate one was fully covered. I don't feel i need to say any more. The point truly has nothing to do with nipples or nudity, the point has everything to do with objectifying women and sexist practices in fantasy art. It's a trend i'm ashamed of, up down left and right and wish to change, but for now i'll just try to educate. Dryden Final quote from girlfriend: "They would never think of drawing men with their ***es hanging out all over the place" [/QUOTE]

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