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<blockquote data-quote="Steverooo" data-source="post: 2300112" data-attributes="member: 9410">Wrongo, Keebler!&nbsp; Supes ALWAYS faces adversity, as any hero does!&nbsp; He has a great many weaknesses, too!&nbsp; He can die of old age, which will weaken him, long before it kills him!&nbsp; He can be killed by green Kryptonite!&nbsp; He is downright powerless on any world with a red sun (and fought Lex Luthor and his robotic dogs on just such a world, where Lex was a hero).&nbsp; He is also vulnerable to magic (and the list goes on!)...Now compare Supes to the list of qualities...&nbsp; Honesty?&nbsp; Check!&nbsp; (With the exception of lying to protect his secret identity)&nbsp; Self-sacrifice?&nbsp; Check!&nbsp; If nothing else, he gives up his time to help others, for which he gets no pay.&nbsp; Nobility?&nbsp; Check (as far as I'm concerned)!The LotR characters probably all fail to live up to at least one of the list, at some point.&nbsp; Gandalf would be the first to admit to failures of wisdom, methinks.&nbsp; Boromir certainly did.&nbsp; Methinks all of the Hobbitses failed at valor, initially.&nbsp; Aragorn often berates himself for failing at wisdom...&nbsp; Legolas &amp; Gimli have no failings that I can point to, but probably added the least to the party...No, the above is a good list for what heroes should strive to be, even if they fail to be it.&nbsp; Not even a hero is a hero all the time!&nbsp; Eventually, the crisis is over, and he takes a vacation...&nbsp; Does he stop being heroic just because no evil rears its ugly head to be bashed?Hardly!&nbsp;<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Steverooo, post: 2300112, member: 9410"] Wrongo, Keebler! Supes ALWAYS faces adversity, as any hero does! He has a great many weaknesses, too! He can die of old age, which will weaken him, long before it kills him! He can be killed by green Kryptonite! He is downright powerless on any world with a red sun (and fought Lex Luthor and his robotic dogs on just such a world, where Lex was a hero). He is also vulnerable to magic (and the list goes on!)... Now compare Supes to the list of qualities... Honesty? Check! (With the exception of lying to protect his secret identity) Self-sacrifice? Check! If nothing else, he gives up his time to help others, for which he gets no pay. Nobility? Check (as far as I'm concerned)! The LotR characters probably all fail to live up to at least one of the list, at some point. Gandalf would be the first to admit to failures of wisdom, methinks. Boromir certainly did. Methinks all of the Hobbitses failed at valor, initially. Aragorn often berates himself for failing at wisdom... Legolas & Gimli have no failings that I can point to, but probably added the least to the party... No, the above is a good list for what heroes should strive to be, even if they fail to be it. Not even a hero is a hero all the time! Eventually, the crisis is over, and he takes a vacation... Does he stop being heroic just because no evil rears its ugly head to be bashed? Hardly! :p [/QUOTE]

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