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<blockquote data-quote="Drawmack" data-source="post: 861398" data-attributes="member: 4981"><p>I honestly did not intend to be irritating or inflamatory. Execpt in one post, in response to an enflamatory post pointed at me, and that wasn't only noticed by me, read back and you'll see someone else commenting on it as well. If I have been irritating or inflamatory I appologize and will attempt to avoid that in the future.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Nope, never said that - never insuated that. You are putting words into my mouth. To honestly address the questions asked. I have not purchased any ambient products. Nothing against them just havn't seen one that I thought would be useful in the style game that I run. I did download PHFOB and I loved it, can't wait for the second one. I've also seen hell hounds posts in the boards and judging from this, addmitedly limited, exposure to Ambient's products I would say that they are a cut above some, probably many, other pdf products. Right on par with some others and I've seen a couple very high quality products that Ambient may fall short of. With E.N. Publishing my only exposure has been TTF. I was impressed with the rule presented in this product but not overly thrilled with many of the other aspects of it. However having too limited of exposure I will withhold direct comment on if, in general, they are a cut above the rest or not. When I say a cut above the rest, I mean a cut above everyone and there is only one way to do that - be the first to do something.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Some of the things on my initial list were pipe dreams and I admitted that the first time they were brought up. Would I like to see them. Yes. Do I really expect to see them. No. There is really only one thing on that list that I can honestly say I'm dissapointed is not used more adaquatly in rpg pdfs and this is internal hyperlinking. The reason I am adamant that it doesn't take too long, and that these a just excuses is because I also buy programming pdfs and game manual (not table top) pdfs often. Those cost about the same, per page, as role playing pdfs and they have linked indexes and cross references. If someone put one of those out without the links they would be considered unprofessional, but rpg epublishers say it takes too long and get upset when I don't believe them. </p><p></p><p></p><p>As far as everyone getting paid the same. I would say that depends if someone has a name and others don't and all that stuff needs to be taken into account. Yes if everything I've mentioned was used the files would be huge and would probably need to be split for download. Thought this could be used to sell them as seperate products. A trial run would be expensive and unless some very creative measures were taken to keep cost down, it would be cost prohibitive. However if the different features were offered in different products publishers would know what sold.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Thank you for that. I'd buy them a lap dance too. As I stated above they are really pipe dreams. Maybe some voice for pronunciation of stranger words, or something. but really the one thing I think should be there is better linking. If a reference in the book says see section X it should be a link to section X.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Drawmack, post: 861398, member: 4981"] I honestly did not intend to be irritating or inflamatory. Execpt in one post, in response to an enflamatory post pointed at me, and that wasn't only noticed by me, read back and you'll see someone else commenting on it as well. If I have been irritating or inflamatory I appologize and will attempt to avoid that in the future. Nope, never said that - never insuated that. You are putting words into my mouth. To honestly address the questions asked. I have not purchased any ambient products. Nothing against them just havn't seen one that I thought would be useful in the style game that I run. I did download PHFOB and I loved it, can't wait for the second one. I've also seen hell hounds posts in the boards and judging from this, addmitedly limited, exposure to Ambient's products I would say that they are a cut above some, probably many, other pdf products. Right on par with some others and I've seen a couple very high quality products that Ambient may fall short of. With E.N. Publishing my only exposure has been TTF. I was impressed with the rule presented in this product but not overly thrilled with many of the other aspects of it. However having too limited of exposure I will withhold direct comment on if, in general, they are a cut above the rest or not. When I say a cut above the rest, I mean a cut above everyone and there is only one way to do that - be the first to do something. Some of the things on my initial list were pipe dreams and I admitted that the first time they were brought up. Would I like to see them. Yes. Do I really expect to see them. No. There is really only one thing on that list that I can honestly say I'm dissapointed is not used more adaquatly in rpg pdfs and this is internal hyperlinking. The reason I am adamant that it doesn't take too long, and that these a just excuses is because I also buy programming pdfs and game manual (not table top) pdfs often. Those cost about the same, per page, as role playing pdfs and they have linked indexes and cross references. If someone put one of those out without the links they would be considered unprofessional, but rpg epublishers say it takes too long and get upset when I don't believe them. As far as everyone getting paid the same. I would say that depends if someone has a name and others don't and all that stuff needs to be taken into account. Yes if everything I've mentioned was used the files would be huge and would probably need to be split for download. Thought this could be used to sell them as seperate products. A trial run would be expensive and unless some very creative measures were taken to keep cost down, it would be cost prohibitive. However if the different features were offered in different products publishers would know what sold. Thank you for that. I'd buy them a lap dance too. As I stated above they are really pipe dreams. Maybe some voice for pronunciation of stranger words, or something. but really the one thing I think should be there is better linking. If a reference in the book says see section X it should be a link to section X. [/QUOTE]
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