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<blockquote data-quote="Anubis the Doomseer" data-source="post: 1112925" data-attributes="member: 12455"><p>It's a little thing called free market capitalism, maybe you heard of it. You make a product and if there is consumer demand you make money. Obviously there is demand for things a bit off the beaten track than the standard fare you get from Hasbro/Wizards.</p><p></p><p>Now that the "won't someone think about the children" crowd are in epilectic fits, let explain how other games also violate the clause - real world religion (no more Testament or Rapture d20), nothing political (Afghanistan d20), depictions of historical facts like slavery and the like are also verboten.</p><p></p><p>There is also the problem that Hasbro has opened the door to any liability that may be associated with a product. Did Billy claim he shot up his school because his character died? Well, before this Hasbro could say "that's too bad, but he was using a third party product licencing our system. We have no responsibility since we cannot control the content of 3rd party books." The parents don't sue 3rd party books because it's a micropublisher, three undergrads working out of their dormrooms using a start-up business loan and their laptops - no deep pockets. NOW, however, Hasbro is claiming control over these products - open door for frivolous lawsuits (on top of the quite legitimate ones from third party publishers who get dinged by this clause). </p><p></p><p>Hasbro also has the onus to make clear what standards it is using when it exercises "sole discretion". It also opens up all sorts of very nasty arguments over why killing imaginary people is okay, but enslaving imaginary people or having sex with imaginary people is bad. While not by the strict definition hypocrites on this, their moral authority to censor is undermined by their "mature" line of books, including the ever-so-loving nipple clamps of exquisite pain (Book of Vile Darkness).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Anubis the Doomseer, post: 1112925, member: 12455"] It's a little thing called free market capitalism, maybe you heard of it. You make a product and if there is consumer demand you make money. Obviously there is demand for things a bit off the beaten track than the standard fare you get from Hasbro/Wizards. Now that the "won't someone think about the children" crowd are in epilectic fits, let explain how other games also violate the clause - real world religion (no more Testament or Rapture d20), nothing political (Afghanistan d20), depictions of historical facts like slavery and the like are also verboten. There is also the problem that Hasbro has opened the door to any liability that may be associated with a product. Did Billy claim he shot up his school because his character died? Well, before this Hasbro could say "that's too bad, but he was using a third party product licencing our system. We have no responsibility since we cannot control the content of 3rd party books." The parents don't sue 3rd party books because it's a micropublisher, three undergrads working out of their dormrooms using a start-up business loan and their laptops - no deep pockets. NOW, however, Hasbro is claiming control over these products - open door for frivolous lawsuits (on top of the quite legitimate ones from third party publishers who get dinged by this clause). Hasbro also has the onus to make clear what standards it is using when it exercises "sole discretion". It also opens up all sorts of very nasty arguments over why killing imaginary people is okay, but enslaving imaginary people or having sex with imaginary people is bad. While not by the strict definition hypocrites on this, their moral authority to censor is undermined by their "mature" line of books, including the ever-so-loving nipple clamps of exquisite pain (Book of Vile Darkness). [/QUOTE]
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