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<blockquote data-quote="KDLadage" data-source="post: 1113342" data-attributes="member: 88"><p>OK. Wizards has a new gun and it is aimed at Valar's BoEF. Who will it be aimed at next?</p><p></p><p>Unlikely? Care to invest some $10,000 in geting your new hard-cover book to market, knowing that it is <em>unlikely</em> that Wizards of the Coast will tell you to yank them all, at your expense, and eat the original costs of publication?</p><p></p><p>How many small press companies do you think could afford that?</p><p></p><p>They had a hundred tools they could have used; and a million directions they could have taken those tools to correct this situation. This was a poor choice of tool and direction.</p><p></p><p>This is America. He can be into all the S&M he wants; he can form any church he wants (after all, if L. Ron Hubbard can, why can't he?). This has NOTHING to do with it at all.</p><p></p><p>He put the Dungeons and Dragons logo too large -- fine, the 10-12 pt font limitation should cover that one. He made a lot of noise with the Press Release -- fine, put in a clause that states that Press Releases are to be considered advertizing for all purposes of the d20 STL. He made a book about a topic that WotC has covered, and wants to cover it in a way WotC does not like -- morality clauses are NOT the way to go here.</p><p></p><p>I am very happy to hear that.</p><p></p><p>Hmmm.... you <strong>REALLY DOUBT</strong> that they will take actions against <strong>MOST COMPANIES</strong>. That is not making me feel any more comfortable.</p><p></p><p>Mongoose? Some nipples showing (nothing as bad as the MM2 cover); some real-world situations. Might skirt the boundries a bit.</p><p></p><p>Testament? Real world religions shown in a way that makes them more right than others. Might skirt the boundaries a bit.</p><p></p><p>Slavery? I have three races in UMBRAGIA that have been enslaved for centuries. They are, therefor, shown to be inferior in many instances. Will I have UMBRAGIA shut down? I don't know. <em>But those are fantasy races!</em> you say. OK... suppose I want to make a d20 Modern game about Agrarian America (that period from Colonization to the Civil War). I would have to include the enslavement of Africans and the treatment of Native Americans is I were to do this product justice. Would this not show a particular race as being portrayed as inferior? how about a World War II game that does not show how the Germans considered the Jews as inferior? However wrong these people were in history, they believed these things, and if you are going to roleplay in that era, these things are going to crop up. Is this wrong? Should we ban it? Then we may as well ban THE ADVENTURES OF HUCKLEBERRY FINN for having a few words in it we don't like (however authentic to the period they happen to have been). Wait -- they have tried that on several occations.</p><p></p><p>How about the Dragon Magazine hobbit issue with the gratuitous violence and gore? This was while WotC ran the show! Will Piazo be forced to get Wizards' approval for all future DUNGEON and DRAGON magazine publications? How about other RPG mags, like SIGNS AND PORTENTS from Mongoose? They might want to if they want to avoid hving the hammer come down o their own house organ -- lest an out-of-work former d20 publisher beings up a lawsuit showing that the rules are ambiguous and unevenly applied.</p><p></p><p>Or anything else that the suits at WotC and Hasbro do not like the sound or look of.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KDLadage, post: 1113342, member: 88"] OK. Wizards has a new gun and it is aimed at Valar's BoEF. Who will it be aimed at next? Unlikely? Care to invest some $10,000 in geting your new hard-cover book to market, knowing that it is [i]unlikely[/i] that Wizards of the Coast will tell you to yank them all, at your expense, and eat the original costs of publication? How many small press companies do you think could afford that? They had a hundred tools they could have used; and a million directions they could have taken those tools to correct this situation. This was a poor choice of tool and direction. This is America. He can be into all the S&M he wants; he can form any church he wants (after all, if L. Ron Hubbard can, why can't he?). This has NOTHING to do with it at all. He put the Dungeons and Dragons logo too large -- fine, the 10-12 pt font limitation should cover that one. He made a lot of noise with the Press Release -- fine, put in a clause that states that Press Releases are to be considered advertizing for all purposes of the d20 STL. He made a book about a topic that WotC has covered, and wants to cover it in a way WotC does not like -- morality clauses are NOT the way to go here. I am very happy to hear that. Hmmm.... you [b]REALLY DOUBT[/b] that they will take actions against [b]MOST COMPANIES[/b]. That is not making me feel any more comfortable. Mongoose? Some nipples showing (nothing as bad as the MM2 cover); some real-world situations. Might skirt the boundries a bit. Testament? Real world religions shown in a way that makes them more right than others. Might skirt the boundaries a bit. Slavery? I have three races in UMBRAGIA that have been enslaved for centuries. They are, therefor, shown to be inferior in many instances. Will I have UMBRAGIA shut down? I don't know. [i]But those are fantasy races![/i] you say. OK... suppose I want to make a d20 Modern game about Agrarian America (that period from Colonization to the Civil War). I would have to include the enslavement of Africans and the treatment of Native Americans is I were to do this product justice. Would this not show a particular race as being portrayed as inferior? how about a World War II game that does not show how the Germans considered the Jews as inferior? However wrong these people were in history, they believed these things, and if you are going to roleplay in that era, these things are going to crop up. Is this wrong? Should we ban it? Then we may as well ban THE ADVENTURES OF HUCKLEBERRY FINN for having a few words in it we don't like (however authentic to the period they happen to have been). Wait -- they have tried that on several occations. How about the Dragon Magazine hobbit issue with the gratuitous violence and gore? This was while WotC ran the show! Will Piazo be forced to get Wizards' approval for all future DUNGEON and DRAGON magazine publications? How about other RPG mags, like SIGNS AND PORTENTS from Mongoose? They might want to if they want to avoid hving the hammer come down o their own house organ -- lest an out-of-work former d20 publisher beings up a lawsuit showing that the rules are ambiguous and unevenly applied. Or anything else that the suits at WotC and Hasbro do not like the sound or look of. [/QUOTE]
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