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<blockquote data-quote="Harlock" data-source="post: 1113350" data-attributes="member: 4545">Come now, WotC haven't proven to be total ogres at this point.&nbsp; Look at the monsters that were part of the &quot;gentleperson's agreement&quot; that didn't make it into the SRD.&nbsp; WotC didn't laugh maniacally as they forced Paradigm Concepts and Goodman Games to stop work on their mindflayer and beholder books respectively.&nbsp; They in fact, after polite negotiations of a sort, let them go ahead and publish it, as far as my understanding of the matter goes.&nbsp; Again, this &quot;shift&quot; in the playing field does not affect the OGL.&nbsp; Sure it's a bummer to a lot of people, publishers, consumers and even WotC, I am sure, but it's not the end.&nbsp; Given how WotC has been willing to give a little here and there when people were polite (as in the example of Paradigm cited above) I don't forsee there being any immediate problems with this version of the d20STL other than a targetting of BoEF and Valar.&nbsp; The problem comes in how they want to enforce this in the future as it is rather open-ended as it stands now.&nbsp; If someone new for WotC/Hasbro came in and wanted to be mean and start elimnating competition by drumming up violations, then it's gone way too far.&nbsp; The d20STL was too abuseable by publishers (obviously since they abused certain aspects of it) but now it opens itself to too much potential abuse by WotC.&nbsp; Surely there is some happy medium which can be reached.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Harlock, post: 1113350, member: 4545"] Come now, WotC haven't proven to be total ogres at this point. Look at the monsters that were part of the "gentleperson's agreement" that didn't make it into the SRD. WotC didn't laugh maniacally as they forced Paradigm Concepts and Goodman Games to stop work on their mindflayer and beholder books respectively. They in fact, after polite negotiations of a sort, let them go ahead and publish it, as far as my understanding of the matter goes. Again, this "shift" in the playing field does not affect the OGL. Sure it's a bummer to a lot of people, publishers, consumers and even WotC, I am sure, but it's not the end. Given how WotC has been willing to give a little here and there when people were polite (as in the example of Paradigm cited above) I don't forsee there being any immediate problems with this version of the d20STL other than a targetting of BoEF and Valar. The problem comes in how they want to enforce this in the future as it is rather open-ended as it stands now. If someone new for WotC/Hasbro came in and wanted to be mean and start elimnating competition by drumming up violations, then it's gone way too far. The d20STL was too abuseable by publishers (obviously since they abused certain aspects of it) but now it opens itself to too much potential abuse by WotC. Surely there is some happy medium which can be reached. [/QUOTE]

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